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 What is considered plumbing,"all new plumbing"
Author: mokishana (UT)

I bought a home which said it had all new plumbing in the listing from a guy who flips houses. Three weeks later, I found out an interior, cement-encased pipe was broken, slab leak. It cost over 10k to replace the pipe and repair the basement which had been flooded. I took the previous owner to small claims court. the judge ruled in his favor because new plumbing means any pipe that is less than 2 inches in diameter. the pipe that broke was over 2 inches in diameter; thus, according to the judge, it did not have to be replaced to claim that the house had new plumbing.



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 Re: What is considered plumbing,"all new plumbing"
Author: stuckinlodi (MO)

I doubt it matters what anyone other than the judge thinks, his ruling is not going to get changed by internet opinion. But if someone says "all" that would imply to me "everything". But if you think about it, the home has a buried water line from the meter to the house, I doubt anyone would replace it unless it had a problem. Likewise, there is a buried sewer line from the house out to the street sewer main, no one is going to replace that entire sewer line unless it has a big problem.

So when they said "all plumbing" they probably meant all the reasonably accessible pipes inside the home.

Was this 2 inch pipe that broke a drain line, or maybe a pressurized water supply line from a well?



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 Re: What is considered plumbing,"all new plumbing"
Author: mokishana (UT)

Thanks. I do have sewage insurance for 10K coverage, but they won't pay for anything in the interior of the home.

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 Re: What is considered plumbing,"all new plumbing"
Author: stuckinlodi (MO)

So this broken 2" pipe is a drain line (that would be very big for a pressurized water supply line). If it is a drain line did the leak go unnoticed for a while to cause all the flooding, unless it was for something like a washing machine?

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 Re: What is considered plumbing,"all new plumbing"
Author: mokishana (UT)

The pipe that broke was the line that took the sewage out. It was still in the interior of the home. It broke less than three weeks after I had bought the house, so i have no idea if it leaked before, and I could not prove in court that it leaked before.



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 Re: What is considered plumbing,"all new plumbing"
Author: hj (AZ)

That must be some kind of "local interpretation" because I have never heard of it before. But, given that flippers are NOT concerned about "long term, quality" repairs, i would never rely on their definition of "all new plumbing" in the first place.

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