A homeowner wants to remove the spout (no longer used...a new valve has been installed on the opp. wall) and possible install an overflow and attach to existing fitting in floor....SEE PICS

This set up is unfamiliar to me. The water supplies were decoratively wrapped around a stopper tube (don't know correct name?) which you twist and drop to plug the drain and allow the tub to fill. She would be OK not having this feature and install a tip - toe type stopper in the drain.

QUESTION: is it possible to convert this spout/stopper assembly into and overflow? And if not what is the next best thing to eliminate the longer stopper tub but still have a way to snake the drain? My supervisor wants to tell her to replace the tub something she is unwilling to do. Thanks for any input.

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That "stopper tube" IS the overflow, so why would you need a second one. In most cases, the spout opening is too low on the end of the tub to be a "good" overflow. Just leave everything the way it is.

I didn't spend a lot of time examining this set up but my thoughts were that there is no overflow. The chrome supply tubes come in from the sides and the hot and cold were mixed and out into the spout. I don't think there is an overflow in this set up.

we call those 'bayonette' waste and overflow.
the current overflow is integral with the tall chrome 'bayonette' holder/reciever.
the 'bayonette' is hollow and when water rises in that tube it spills down the center of the 'bayonette'.
to answer your question.. yes you can remove that spout and shoe . you can the use a conventional tub waste and overflow.

There is, in fact, an overflow.

The 'inner tube' has slots in the side at the appropriate height to allow 'hi water' to drain away through its' center when it is seated to act as a stopper.




The 'wrap around' supply connection is very very classy and will be impossible to replace.

Simply replace the chrome supply tubes and 'polish it up'.

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ps. I assume that the supply pipes will be removed, the floor patched ?!

pps. post crossed with Packy

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The water in the tub "rises" in the "tube" until it reaches the slots o the pull up tube, that ARE the overflow. It was a common method for the overflow when the tubs had "submerged" spouts inside the tub.

If I remember correctly that hole is only about the size of a quarter so he mite have some issues with stagnate water at the face plate.I know you cant use a "2 screw" face plate with those old tubs.

i have actually changed a couple of those for customers. the ones i worked on had a regular overflow hole.
i'm sure this one does.. look how large the spout flange is..



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Yup , I have too. That looks to be nickel so it's probably pre 1935...Post what size you find when you remove that spout Pipe runner.

lf all of this is just to get an overflow, which he already has, what's the point?

A standard waste and overflow will never work on this.....that's a hollow tub and about a 3" gap between the inside and outside wall. If you cut out that old filler inside the tub you will be in trouble my friend.



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sorry NoHub but it will work. the overflow pipe will fit up inside the hollow space. just need one person to hold and one to tighten the screws. i have done that before..
i believe it is called a corner tub.. BTW, they are the heaviest type tub... gulp..

I think He will be opening up Pandora's Box...That tub shoes probably imbedded the cement floor too!...break out the jack hammer.