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 bidet removal
Author: brandisophie (PA)

I recently purchased a house with a bidet in the second floor bathroom. I would like to remove it to replace with a larger vanity cabinet. Other than shutting the water off and removing the bidet, what is required. The pipes are somewhere in the walls going down to the basement.

Thanks.

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: bernabeu (SC)

you will require a building permit

and

an actual plumber

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: packy (MA)

it is pretty simple to do. get us a photo of the back part of the bidet where the piping is and someone can give accurate dirrections.

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: hj (AZ)

quote; you will require a building permit

Yooou've got to be kidding, right? A building permit to cap off two water lines and a drain line? I suppose they also need an architect, lawayer, general conctracto, and a plumbing contractor. That just changed a minor revision into a building project.

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: packy (MA)

in massachusetts it WOULD require paying the appropriate fee for a plumbing permit obtained by a licensed plumber. it would require a licensed plumber to remove the bidet and cap the pipes.
it would not require an architect nor a first baseman..

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: bernabeu (SC)

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A building permit to cap off two water lines and a drain line?



YEP .. In order to ensure that dead ends (over 24" ?) are not left.

Improperly modified plumbing may, in fact, cause actual harm.

Remember: Code is the MINIMUM, not the RECOMMENDED.

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: hj (AZ)

quote; . In order to ensure that dead ends (over 24" ?) are not left.
And YOU REALLY think the removing plumber is going to tear out walls and/or floors to do that? You must also believe in the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy.

An honest lawyer, an ethical financial advisor and Santa Clause were in an elevator. When the door opened there was a $100.00 bill in the lobby. Who picked it up"

A. Santa Claus because the other two are ficticious and do not exist.

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: bernabeu (SC)

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The pipes are somewhere in the walls going down to the basement.



They do not require removal, merely capping at their source in the basement.

? What part of: Do the job properly is not comprehensible ?

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: packy (MA)

bernabeu, if a bidet is removed from a second floor bathroom, how in the world does someone cap pipes in the basement?
a little reality check is in order.
as i said before, if i ran my small town business to your union inspired standards, i would be in the bread line..

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: bernabeu (SC)

not my 'union inspired standards' but actual code requirements


there shall NOT be dead ends


different codes define the length of a dead end


dead ends create stagnant water / stoppages



for example:

ICC 704.5 Dead ends.
In the installation or removal of any part of a drainage system dead ends shall be prohibited. (clean out extensions are permitted)

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: hj (AZ)

What makes you thing the SECOND floor bidet has separte supply lines all the way to the basement, AND, most bidets have supplies from the wall connecting to the rest of the plumbing for THAT BATHROOM.

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: bernabeu (SC)

you are likely correct

but

the OP may not leave any dead ends (in NYC circa 1975 that would be 24"winking smiley



your post crossed with my edit

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: hj (AZ)

Not necessarily, because they might be like the lady selling apples for $30.00 apiece. When told she wouldn't sell many at that price, she replied, "I don't have to sell MANY, all I need to do is sell one". Or like the plumbing contractor in Phoenix who said, "I don't need repeat business, all I have to do is get into every home once>" These "get rich gurus drive me crazy with their "Unless you charge $275.oo morr per hour you are going to go broke". Bernabeau must have worked for one fo those compannies.

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: hj (AZ)

You are quoting the ICC, I thought you were referring to an actual plumbing code, NOT a "recommendation" which allows almost anything that contractors decide it is an easier to do something.

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: bernabeu (SC)

The OP has a fully functional bath-room.

He wishes to modify same.

Said modification may, or may not, be costly to accomplish PROPERLY.

The OP requires education as to the MINIMUM code compliant modification.

(NOT the DIYer 'never stop improving' way.)


If the bidet has short local fixture branches they may be capped locally.

If, as the OP stated, 'the piping comes from the basement' the piping must be disconnected in basement and capped there.


The following statement is still, if unpleasantly, true:
THE PLUMBER PROTECTS THE HEALTH OF THE NATION

We all know, or should know, the MINIMUM code - code prohibits dead ends.

Why are we debating what is a matter of actual law? Albeit with no 'teeth'.

DO'H

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: bernabeu (SC)

our posts crossed again


many states (Virginia for one) use the ICC as their 'source' code

I used the ICC as an EXAMPLE

NYC and NY state codes both prohibit dead ends

I believe the IBB (which SC and other states use) also prohibits, but am not positive


GOOD PRACTICE would prohibit dead ends

In any event the OP would require a building permit to remove a sanitary fixture in 99% of all jurisdictions.

Let the authority having jurisdiction decide the issue.

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638



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 Re: bidet removal
Author: hj (AZ)

quote; 'the piping comes from the basement' the piping must be disconnected in basement

By definition ALL PIPING COMES FROM THE BASEMENT, but he has no idea what ELSE is connected to it. If he knew things like that he would not be asking us things. OR do yo run separate lines from the basement to EVERY Second floor fixture?

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 Re: bidet removal
Author: bernabeu (SC)

potable water: maybe, as in PEX home-run systems

sanitary: probably not (possibly if a retro-fit)


the nit has now been picked to death

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