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seven (CA)
Challenge question for extra points:
Customer in N. California has damage to existing gasline from 2" PVC, schedule 40, rated for natural gas. (they used that here for a while in the 70s/80s, no need to get into how this does not exist and how crazy it is) The pipe is properly buried ca, 20 deep and the material is not deteriorated. The damage occured at a joint fitting.
The inspector will sign off on a repair if I can come up with a part that is ASTM 2513 rated and IAPMO listed.
Am looking for two transition fittings from 2"PVC to PE.
Any thoughts? Have gone through all the manufacturers I can find, some make the part but they don't submit it to be listed because it's not worth it for such a specialty part.
If I can't find that part it's going to be a 500 foot new line through manicured landscaping and lawns, driveways and walkways.
Hoping the combined experience and brainpower of this forum can come up with something.
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Author:
seven (CA)
Thanks for the leads, none of these guys make fittings rated for natural gas. And no luck w. PG&E either.
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Author:
steve (CA)
[www.elster-perfection.com]
I was going to question if it had to be IAPMO, being it meets ASTM 2513, but I just saw this note under CPC Table 14-1
"1 Although this standard is referenced in Table 14-1, some of the pipe, tubing, fittings, valves, or fixtures included in the standard are not acceptable for use under the provisions of the California Plumbing Code."
Are you dealing with the Building Official or the Field Inspector?
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Author:
m & m (MD)
What is the gas pressure?
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
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....no need to get into how this does not exist and how crazy it is.....
you can try calling [www.jmeagle.com] but I doubt you will find your 'approved' fitting anywhere
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
EUREKA
[www.polycam.com]
Series 735
Transition for
PVC/HDPE
Manufactured to ASTM D—2513-96a, D1599, D1598
You, will, of course, have to 'weld' the HDPE
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
? How many points ?
Thank you for letting me play.
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Author:
hj (AZ)
Your real problem is that they eventually discovered that natural gas "damaged" the PVC connections, so even if you fix this one, you could eventually have others.
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bernabeu (SC)
hj,
if a previously code compliant pvc 'section' failed why not simply replace it with an equivalent section ?
must a repair in the 'middle' be brought up to current code ?
a comparable repair would, imo, be better than a 'patchwork' code upgrade
you are correct, of course, that the entire line should be replaced
?! perhaps that is what the inspector is trying to 'force' !?
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hj (AZ)
PVC has not been approved for gas lines, although the utilities still use it sometimes, for decades. as a sidebar, the pipe was approved, but NO sch. 40 fittings were, so we had to use sch. 80 fittings.
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
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Author:
seven (CA)
sorry to disappoint, poly-cam does not submit that part for IAPMO testing, they only make a few every year.
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
evidently you will have to run the new 500'
? if a previously code compliant pvc 'section' failed why not simply replace it with an equivalent section ?
must a repair in the 'middle' be brought up to current code ?
a comparable repair would, imo, be better than a 'patchwork' code upgrade
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