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 What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: ArthurPeabody (NM)

Before I thought seriously about plumbing I thought traps trapped things: the wedding ring dropped down the drain, stuff that clogged the pipe (for easy removal). I bought a trap for my clothes washer, but only one side of the bend is threaded, rather than both, as in all the slip-joint traps I have installed. What good is it? I can't remove it. I know the purpose of a union when plumbing threaded fittings. I don't see the purpose on a trap that has to be welded on all the other joints. I've thought of attaching a short stub to the inlet, attaching that to the pipe with a Fernco sleeve, to make it removeable.

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 Re: What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: bsipps (PA)

You can glue in a slip trap adapter on the inlet to make it a slip joint

The trap we are discussing is sch. 40 not tubular which has a much thinner wall

I’m not sure why they are used, an 1 1/2” pvc trap is not hard to cable through and they are cheap enough and not worth re using

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 Re: What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: ArthurPeabody (NM)

It's a clothes washer: it's plumbed with 2" drain pipe. I found a trap adapter for 2", but the nut is too small to attach to 2" PVC. I've never seen 2" slip-joint.

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 Re: What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: bsipps (PA)

2” throw it in the trash… no use for it buy a trap that is solvent welded on both inlet and outlet

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 Re: What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

The swivel is to allow for slight 'misses' left-right with the roughing.

The swivel is NOT for trap disassembly after installation.

Sometimes referred to as a L.A. Trap where they were first permitted.



They were NOT permitted previous to 1970? in the NYC code.

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: george 7941 (Canada)

The union does come in useful sometimes. Say there is a a tailpiece to be replaced under a kitchen sink, the tailpiece is longer than it needs to be and there is not enough give in the drain piping. Undoing the union enables easy removal of the tailpiece.

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 Re: What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: bsipps (PA)

All solvent welded joints will swivel for period of time and the pipe is quite flexible so missing a little bit on the rough in would usually work with any style trap

If it isn’t meant to be taken apart it shouldn’t have a nut to begin with

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 Re: What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

we are NOT referring to any 'swivel' in the joint before the solvent 'sets'

we are referring to a mechanical joint in the trap itself

said joint will allow the trap inlet to swivel sideways in refernce to the 'centerline' to allow for 'slight' errors in the rouging

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: What's the good of a union p-trap?
Author: packy (MA)

MA code requires a full size cleanout under kitchen sinks.
it allows us to install a union type trap so the trap is removable. this passes the code as a full size cleanout.

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