So my client wants his attic finished with the addition of a bathroom. The attic is roughed in for a toilet waste line, and hot and cold supply lines. He wants to add a walk-in shower, but there is nothing roughed in for the walk-in shower. The sub floor was laid by the builder. My plumber gave me an estimate but it seems low to me. In the estimate he included the price of the vanity, installation of the vanity, installing the toilet, installing the shower valve, installing the drain of the shower, and the pan liner for 2950. Does this seem low to you? I sent him great pictures with a detailed breakdown of what I need done. He will have to tie into the existing drainage pipe for the shower valve, plumb the vanity, toilet, and shower valve. It just seems like a lot for that price. I wish I could add pics on here. But anyway help me out if you have any advice or input, thanks!



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We don't discuss pricing here. A $2900 job in one part of the country could be $5800 in another and both be the going rate for that area.

As to posting photos - [www.plbg.com]

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As it states above .... "Please refrain from asking where to purchase a product, or business, pricing,....."

We do welcome and encourage you to ask specific plumbing related questions.

I apologize, I will not do that again. I was thinking it was low. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what the plumber will do is remove the subfloor, tie into the existing drain line, run piping over to where the shower is going to be, through each joist, p-trap in the shower, install toilet flange on existing drain line (this is the previous roughed in line and should already have a p-trap installed by builder). Re-install subfloor. Also, there is a supply that was roughed in, and it is also on the 3rd floor. Will this be adequate enough to supply the vanity, toilet, and shower? They obviously won't be ran at the same time, so I assume they will be. Thank you for your input!

take the 'plumber's' proposal

turn it into a set of 'job specs'

put said specs out for bids

LICENSED - INSURED - BONDED contractors ONLY


yes, you read correctly, BONDED


part of the 'specs' would be copies of license, insurance, AND bond required BEFORE start of work

then yopu can pay 60% 'up front' without fear as the vendor's work is BONDED

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Quote

yes, low quote is not always the best quote.
It's way low anywhere in this country unless you are working off the books, cash, no inspection, free room and board and dating the daughter.

AGREED 100%


the 'cheapest price' is seldom the lowest cost in the long run

the lowest BID on a set of SPECIFICATIONS tended by a licensed/insured/bonded contractor is PROBABLY close to the lowest cost/time


eg.

NASA put men on the moon by assembling 10,000,000+ parts from the LOWEST bids from LICENSED/BONDED/INSURED/QUALIFIED vendors

all of whom placed BIDS on the provided SPECIFICATIONS - apples to apples / oranges to oranges


NOT 'price me a rocket', YOU pick the materials and method(s)



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A toilet does not require a separate P-trap, it is built into each toilet. Double-trapping will cause incomplete flushing and backup. The toilet flange should not be installed until the finish floor covering is complete. The flange needs to set on top of the finished flooring to be the proper height.

.... as any QUALIFIED licensed/bonded/insured plumber would KNOW




there ARE codes and PERMITS required, even in North Carolina

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Thank you all for your responses, this has helped greatly! Love this forum, you can get answers that aren’t necessarily cut and dry with a google search.



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