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karpat80 (MA)
Two bathrooms upstairs and a 1/2 bath downstairs. The two upstairs are back to back, all had the toilets replaced with American Standard Champion 4. One of the ones upstairs had a Bidit by Tushy installed on it. It is the other upstairs toilet that is having Ghost flushing problems. It may take between 2-4 hours to happen but that water jacket will very slowly drain until it caused the fill to kick in. The floor is dry and there is no visible crack in that water jacket. My wife seems to think this started shortly after the Bidit was installed (by me) but that is only a guess. Is there a method or something I can put in the water jacket (food coloring possibly) to tell where the water is going? Any help chasing down this problem will be much appreciated.
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bernabeu (SC)
check that the refill tube is NOT pushed into the overflow tube
it should be 'clipped' so that it sprays INTO the tube from 'above'
if it is inserted below the tank waterline it can siphon and cause the tank level to go down resulting in a 'ghostly' refill of the tank
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NoHub (MA)
Sounds like the flapper. when the little tube from the fill valve is pushes into the overflow to far and starts to run that's fresh water and not water from the tank reservoir.
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karpat80 (MA)
I checked and the hose is spraying into the overflow tube, it is not placed (or) pushed down into the overflow pipe.
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karpat80 (MA)
The fill hose is mounted correctly, it is not placed inside the overflow tube but mounted (clipped) to the top of the overflow tube spraying into the overflow tube when it is filling. Thanks for your suggestions. At least we have eliminated that possibility.
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bernabeu (SC)
put some food coloring into the tank
check bowl in 2-3 hours
if colored, flush valve / flapper issue
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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638
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karpat80 (MA)
I put the coloring in and it did show up in the bowl. I understand about the flapper may needing replacement but not sure how the flush valve can be causing the problem, can you explain, please. Thank
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bernabeu (SC)
the seat of the flush valve upon which the flapper rests/seals may be dirty or worn
the flush valve may not be 'seated' properly against the tank bottom
the flush valve may be 'cracked'
99.9% it is the flapper
do not confuse the flush valve with the fill valve
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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638
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Author:
srloren (CA)
Use the manufacturer of the toilet parts only. I have seen many call backs when this rule is not followed.
srloren
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Author:
karpat80 (MA)
I just replaced the flapper unit and this solved the issue, thanks for your suggestion.
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