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 Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: ericsandstone (TX)

Delta valve installed. The symptom is handle letting cold out results in small leak from showerhead. As handle moved toward hot, more water comes out of shower. This is with spout to shower plunger in tub position.

Tried flushing through shower arm sans showerhead. Nope.
Took cartridge out, flushed housing, examined cartridge, housing for debris. Zilch and...Nope.
Applied plumbing grease to all rings. Nope.

A dripping spout is what led to this man buying a new valve.

This house just got all new piping. Galvanized gone. Pex in.

Noticed hose bib nearest where the water supply comes in runs with strong pressure.

Thoughts amongst our crew:

Bad new valve.
Two Water heaters need expansion tank/s.
Whole house pressure reducing valve.



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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: steve (CA)

Is there Pex installed between the valve and the tub spout? If yes, what diameter Pex?

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: bsipps (PA)

That sounds like the issue

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: ericsandstone (TX)

Yes. 1/2"

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: bernabeu (SC)

1/2 PEX = 3/8 nominal IPS (due to the internal fittings) resulting in 'back pressure' to the shower head

y'all need to repipe spout as per manufacturer's directions

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: bruceb3 (MI)

It should have 1/2" copper between the valve and spout. More rigid and not restricted. As a side nte, you should use silicone grease on rubber and plastic parts. Yellow plumbers grease should only be used on metal to metal parts. Yellow plumbers grease is a petroleum product and will break down rubber o-rings and seals. Silicone grease wont affect them.

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: hj (AZ)

You had incompetent plumbers who do NOT know how to follow the manufacturer's instructions, since they ALL say NOT to use PEX, or CPVC between the valve and the spout.

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 Tank you both
Author: ericsandstone (TX)

Thank you. Both items very good to know.



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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: ericsandstone (TX)

It just keeps getting more interesting.

When I mentioned the finding about restricted area of pex between spout and valve, manufacturer instructions and all; one of the higher ups came back with -

"We've never had this back pressure before from any other repipe jobs using 1/2" pex between spout and valve."

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: bernabeu (SC)




a workmanlike, aka proper, PEX supply tube bath valve install:



note the COPPER attached to the fixture top AND bottom for proper flow and 'rigidity'

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638



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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: ericsandstone (TX)

I like it. Done right.

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: packy (MA)

"'rigidity'" ???????

a copper elbow at the tub spout ??

must (i repeat) must be a drop eared 90 screwed to a piece of wood!!

in my humble opinion..... shoemaker job..

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: bernabeu (SC)

correct ... as usual

BUT

pic for example only

winking smiley

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: ericsandstone (TX)

I prefer to drop a drop ear at both the showerhead arm snd spout locations eith a 2 x 4 as the backer for rigidity.



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 Re: Newly installed shower and tub valve leak
Author: bernabeu (SC)

smiling smiley

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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