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 Walkout floor drain???
Author: mik2 (WI)

Im in chicagoland house is 60 years old.

Theres a cast iron floor drain in front of walkout basement door. I clear it from time to time with a hose but i have no idea where the water is going.

It doesnt go to sanitary sewer since that exits higher than this drain. I thought it directly drained into my sump pit however running a hose does not cause increased flow into sump.

Would it be likely it just drains into the footing drain tile or just saturating the ground or something... adding to the water table around my foundation .... later to be seen as flow into my sump pit?

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 Re: Walkout floor drain???
Author: packy (MA)

you could try putting a little florescent dye down the pipe to see if it shows up anywhere.

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 Re: Walkout floor drain???
Author: mik2 (WI)

Thanks Packy.

Observation and questions:

The sewer main exits my basement 3' higher than the floor drain in question about 40' away.

I was looking at the water in the trap while I had someone flush a toilet and I think I may have saw very slight movement/vibration in the trap water when the toilet was flushed. I did the same test a few times in a row and at other times I saw no movement whatsoever.

Is movement in the trap water proof that the sanitary sewer and this floor drain are connected?

If that is the case, because the sewer main exits higher than this floor drain, then it must connect outside the house a few feet away from the foundation and a depth of approx. 7' from ground level!

Is that unlikely?



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 Re: Walkout floor drain???
Author: bernabeu (SC)

it is possible/probable that your sewer drops after leaving the house

the drain 'probably' actually ties in


y'all need the invert elevation of the actual main sewer in the street

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: Walkout floor drain???
Author: mik2 (WI)

Generally, how deep is the entrance to the sewer at the street?

Again if it ties in it would at almost 7' and at that point its another 75' to the street!



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 Re: Walkout floor drain???
Author: bernabeu (SC)

4 - 20 feet deep at the street

ever see inside a 'manhole' - hear of 'catacombs' ?

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: Walkout floor drain???
Author: packy (MA)

you need to get your local public works dept involved.
they can pull a manhole cover while you pour a bunch of dye down the floor drain.
that stuff is environmentally safe but it is also very strong fluorescent dye.
follow the dye with a few gallons of water and if the floor drain is connected to the sewer, it will show up.
your city/town may have a good supply of dye that they will give you ?

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 Re: Walkout floor drain???
Author: mik2 (WI)

Thats a good idea packy.


If the water in the trap moves when a toilet is flushed, does that confirm that they are tied together? (of course!)

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 Re: Walkout floor drain???
Author: bernabeu (SC)

yes

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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