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 Trying to get toilet ell apart
Author: RCcola0 (IL)

Hello!

So I have a 1940s toilet that has the spud coming out of the back of the toilet, into a 2" 90 ell, then up into the tank. The spud washer going into the back of the bowl came apart pretty easily and I was able to remove the tank from the bowl. Unfortunately, the ell that was used is just a regular 2" galvanized 90. The spud washer on the spud going into the tank is sandwiched between the tank and the top of the galvanized 90. So, I don't have anything that can fit in there to hold the nut. I was able to use a cheater bar in the open end of the 90 to turn the entire thing, so the gasket is loose from the porcelain. I can turn the whole thing until part of the flush valve sits against the side of the tank, but I'm afraid of breaking the porcelain. I tried to use a hammer and chisel to move the nut while the flush valve is against the side of the tank, but that didn't work either. There is nothing inside of the spud/flush valve to grab onto like there is in the spud going into the bowl.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get this apart?



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 Re: Trying to get toilet ell apart
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

You do not have a standard closet water ell.The removal is not standard either.you hold the brass inside the tank and break the 90 loose.Or,you cut the 90 first free and then the treads to break and split to save the brass..I would very fine tooth saw all off the galvanized and then replace the brass tank spud as well.

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 Re: Trying to get toilet ell apart
Author: hj (AZ)

At this point you have to cut the flush valve between the nut and the tank, (or between the ell and the lock nut, then cut the nut off), then use a conventional 2" tubing flush ell, after replacing the flush valve. You will probably have to raise the tank by a couple of inches in order to fit the new ell.

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 Re: Trying to get toilet ell apart
Author: packy (MA)

or use a 2x4x6 two piece flush ell.

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 Re: Trying to get toilet ell apart
Author: RCcola0 (IL)

Thanks. I really wanted to be lazy and not cut it off.

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 Re: Trying to get toilet ell apart
Author: hj (AZ)

still needs more radius than that galvanized elbow gives him, and since he has the closet spud out already, reinstalling a flush ell will be "easy".

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 Re: Trying to get toilet ell apart
Author: Wheelchair (IL)

Perhaps a flat spud wrench is what you need to hold the spud assembly, while you wrench the galv. elbows from the tank. Once the 90 is removed, you may have to clean up the spud assembly and use tubular brass (2 inch elbow) when you restore tank to the toilet.
Best Wishes

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