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mylesm (VT)
I can't pull the pin or get at it with that grey plastic in the way? Anybody sen this before?
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hj (AZ)
need a better link to the picture.
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mylesm (VT)
yeah sorry, should be fixed now...
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hj (AZ)
You have a problem because it is a poor installation. First you have to remove the plaster ground that is visible in the large opening. Then you can remove the "clip" holding the cartridge in place. Finally, you pull the cartridge out and replace it with a new Moen #1222 one. However, removing it can vary from a 5 minute job, rotating it and pulling it out, to a multi hour one if the rubber seals "roll over" and jam it inside the valve body, and there is NO WAY to tell which will happen until you actually try to do it.
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mylesm (VT)
Okay, hopefully this isn't a stupid question and I'll try googling it in a second, but how the heck do I remove the plaster ground?
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mylesm (VT)
Okay, I think I've figured it out. The plaster ground isn't really necessary and I can use any means necessary to get it out (or at least get the pin out of the cartridge). At that point, I think I've got it. Thanks for your help, just knowing that thing was called a plaster ground helped a ton!
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hj (AZ)
In your case it probably IS necessary, because it looks like it was installed as a "thin wall installation", meaning the fiberglass shower wall is being clamped between the chrome plate and the plaster ground to hold it in place. Use a saber saw, or a "red hot" knife blade to make an opening the size of the hole in the wall, (even smaller would give you the room you need to pull the clip out, and that is the only thing you really need room for).
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m & m (MD)
Try to leave as much plaster guard in place as you can since it serves to "clamp" the escutcheon to the faucet body. If the cartridge fights you coming out, this installation method will compound your struggle.
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PlumberLoren (CA)
That Moen Valve should be strapped to backing and should not move. If you can determine this, then you can break out the plastic plaster ground and install your chrome cover enough to prevent water from leaking around it. Is there a closet behind the valve where you could access it to see if it is properly strapped?
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packy (MA)
with the chrome cover removed from the valve body, it will be apparent if the valve is strapped tightly or moves around.
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hj (AZ)
Thin wall mountings SELDOM have the valve fastened to the wall. That is the reason they use that mounting option.
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