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Pipe runner (AZ)
Viewed a job yesterday and want to bid on it.
Basically the job is to add a customer supplied water filter to remove excessive Chlorine from the city water. So the homeowner wants to hire a plumber to cut into his 1" copper main tightly tucked in the corner in the garage adjacent to a gas water heater on a stand. (see pics on this)
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He does not want the gas water heater drained and moved if at all possible. Honestly I would prefer not to move it as well BUT I do not want to make a difficult job even more difficult by having an awkward position when I go to cut, desolder fittings and add two 1" copper 90's.
what do you think? I know some of you have thought ALOT about plumbing and are chock-full of useful info. thanks.
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PlumberLoren (CA)
Viewing all of the photos shows more than just water problems. It appears that the No-Hub bands are not installed properly and may leak needs to be addressed. Appears the water is rolled under the slab which is a separate pending problem. Recommend water be moved into the attic if you have one. Over time pin holes develop in copper lines and you will have water leaking (small leak which gets larger and larger until you see wet soil or other moisture coming through the slab) To server this customer properly they need to be advised of these problems and recommend repairs and or repipe water system. Also when repairing gas lines near water heater (Read: Flames), the gas needs to be shut off and sniffed to be sure no gas leaks are present before soldering in the immediate area.
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North Carolina Plumber (NC)
You could use gatorbites and pex to really speed things along. Either way I wouldn't move the heater, the job can be done with it in place.
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Pipe runner (AZ)
at PlumberLoren: good call about turning of gas! Better safe than sorry. At this time no plan to do any repipes on main line or house piping...Just adding water filter.
At NCP: yes on what I call Sharkbites and you call Gatorbites. He doesn't want any PEX installed so all will be copper pipe and fittings. I will try to do this work without moving water heater as he wishes but the moment I have any issues with access I will drain and move it off the stand and of the way. I will have to mount unistrut on the adjacent wall and be soldering there. Thanks for your input. You seem to give sound advice again and again. thanks.
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hj (AZ)
IF you HAVE to move the water heater, you are doing something wrong and are turning a simple task into a "project".
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Author:
Pipe runner (AZ)
@ HJ: Yes I'm hoping not to make this into something bigger than it is. Elderly couple living here so I don't want to have the house water off too long.
From the pic I uploaded can you tell where you would make the cuts in the pipe? what fittings you would remove if any by desoldering?
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hj (AZ)
Put a new valve where the coupling is, then rotate the elbow in front of the existing valve upwards, (or remove that valve entirely), then pipe from the new valve to the filter and back down to the existing valve.
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Author:
Pipe runner (AZ)
that's a good plan and that's what I'll attempt tomorrow. thanks so much.
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Author:
Pipe runner (AZ)
would have been extremely difficult to do this job with WH in place. All went well. Had to use two torches on old Gate valve to get it hot enough to desolder due to water in line.
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North Carolina Plumber (NC)
Nice job,
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
EXCELLENT job
I assume your ball valves will close with the handles vertically DOWN (the bypass horizontally DOWN).
~ gravity and vibration will not move them from shut position ~
Did I surpass or merely equal your anal attentiveness ?
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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638
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Pipe runner (AZ)
Did you see my strut and pricey cush clamps???!! I promise you sir there will be not rattling and the valves should not move on their own! The new PRV did it's job and brought house pressure down from 100 PSI to 55 PSI.
thanks for your critique...I appreciate that
Now to find another project..for me usually more difficult than the actual plumbing.
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bernabeu (SC)
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