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 black iron pipe thread question?
Author: ddbbp (KS)

I had a plumber install some 1/2" black iron pipe for a water heater.

I noticed the joints have like 5 threads showing. Where a few have less.

I know there is probably a standard for exposed threads on a properly tightened joint. And I assume material and how they were cut probably have something to do with it.... however...

Does 4-5 threads indicate its not tight enough?

(p.s.- there is no odor and I soaped the joints, I don't see a leak but the exposed threads freak me out!)



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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: North Carolina Plumber (NC)

If it were leaking I would be concerned, since it's not I wouldn't worry about it. If he threaded the pipe on site as I do, he might have threaded some pieces a little longer than others. Maybe some USA made fittings, others made in China ?

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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: ddbbp (KS)

The stuff he used was prethreaded, nipples, fittings and pipe from the manufacture... I assume.

So 5 is to many showing?

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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

don't know

there 'should' be 7 threads TOTAL into the fitting

this applies to 1/8" through 2" NPT / IPS

count inside ANY threaded fitting

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638



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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: ddbbp (KS)

when you say "don't know" so I assume there is no rule here about exposed threads... just by feel or 'if it don't leak then its tight enough' kind of thing?

So I shouldn't freak out about 5 threads showing then?

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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

there ARE rules about exposed threads

you may, or may not, have a safety issue

your issue is that one can not know how many threads are INTO the fitting or how TIGHT the 'make-up' was

see: [www.bing.com]



'should be': 4 turns+ by hand then 2 turns+ by wrench = 7+ turns total (one turn = one thread)

? What did the inspector say ?

If not inspected, WHY NOT inspected ?

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638



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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: ddbbp (KS)

Well im freaked out even more now.

This was installed over a year ago, no imspection as it was water heater replacement and the was just the piping between the shutoff valve and the heaters gas valve.....

as long as I am not seeing or smelling a leak, do you think I should be concerned about this issue further?



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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: hj (AZ)

No, and why did you wait a year before becoming paranoid?

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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: ddbbp (KS)

Just never noticed it until now.

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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: packy (MA)

you have to realize that gas pressure is only a matter of ounces. it is no where the PSI of a water main.
i'm not saying that a hand tight joint won't leak but you don't need much beyond hand tight to make a leak proof gas joint.
i just finished a gas pipe job to a new boiler. i installed a drip tee at the boiler and put in a short nipple and cap. i tighten them by hand and forgot to wrench them tight. i proceeded to pump the piping to 5PSI for the inspection. no leak even though the nipple and cap were hand tight. granted my hands are strong but nonetheless it held 5 PSI.
i discovered the hand tight joint when i turned the meter on and went to loosen the drip cap to bleed the air out.
long story made short.. don't be concerned about your job..

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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: hj (AZ)

That should answer your question about whether they were safe or not, since your house is still there.

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 Re: black iron pipe thread question?
Author: Pipe runner (AZ)

if you were to post a pic of the work done I would tell you if I would be concerned or not.

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