Now that I got my pump working I would like to redo the outflow line contraption that consists of galvanized metal, PVC, and some plastic hose.



The line to the right side coming out of the wall is a galvanized tee 1.5". I want to transition that to 1" with a bushing, then go down and out with PVC.

I am thinking they used a hose because the elbow threaded into the tee doesn't point straight down, and the hose let them bend it a little.

I am sure I can special order some 11 degree pressure fitting but short of doing that, is there any trick if I use a straight piece down, then I need to make a 100 degree elbow. Can I use two 45 elbows and roll them this way and that to get me a larger than 90 degree turn?

You could heat the pipe and bend it to the desired angle.

How about turning the st 90*, so it's pointing 45* from vertical and then use a 45* to go straight down? The intake piping is already sticking out from the wall, so this won't be sticking out any farther.

N C Plumber, I have seen this done on some video, if I remember it requires hot sand to be poured into the pipe right? I don't think I have the skills for this.

Steve, I will try that tomorrow, although I don't know the condition of the threads and how corroded the galvanized metal is. I don't want to brute force it and break the 1953 antique elbow.

If nothing works I can use two 90s swing one against the wall and roll the other one horizontal I just need to chip more concrete away.

I missed it....How did you get it working sum?

Paul, the pump was fine, air was being let in somewhere. I was bouncing against every wall last weekend.

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I tried unthreading that metal bushing, with a 18" plumbers wrench, the biggest u have, did not move any. Cleaned up the paint, tried again, same result.

Should I take a 4' steel pipe to leverage the wrench or would I break it?

I would leave it be, if you're careful you can heat and bend the pipe without sand in it, just use a heat gun or possibly a hair dryer. You can practice on a scrap piece.

The 11 degree fitting would not only have to be special ordered, they would have to manufactured, after you paid ALL the tooling costs and the injection molds.

But the current line coming out of the pump has a hose before it goes to PVC, which is why I am trying to redo just that part.



I wanted to remove this bushing and put in a 1.5X1 PVC bushing, then go 1" all the way out.



I cleaned the paint off. There is a plastic fitting that goes from that hose into that metal bushing. That won't come off either and I already chewed up the edges of that fitting trying to get it out.

Update: I got it to unthread after putting a 4' long galanized pipe over the handle of my wrench. It was on real tight. I had to use that pipe to turn a good two full revolutions before I can use just the wrench to turn it.

Thank you Archimedes who I believe is responsible for the lever principles. That comes in handy.

Now on to getting the plumbing line finished.

I used two 45 elbows and rolled them this way and that until I got one end to point straight down. Smooth sailing from here on out.

sum...why did you reduce your riser/ you have one inch comminig over and one inch looking down...just courious...dan

Dan, that is because the outflow line is all 1" line, and the 1.5" section you see in the picture is only about 24" long then it's 1" all the way. Whoever put this together before me used a mix of 1.5", 1.25", 1" in sizes of PVC, plastic hose, galvanized iron all of these in the first 30" of the line.

That hose is actually Polyethylene, or black roll pipe. They used a nylon insert male adapter to transition to it. That's what we use to hang deep well pumps on down to 500' or so.

Good job breaking that old fitting loose! Did you use a second wrench to hold back on while using the 4' long galvanized pipe over the handle of your pipe wrench?? With my luck, I would have broken something else loose instead.

NC Plumber, how did they connect the Polyethylene pipe to the male adapter. As far as I can tell, it is not threaded, there is no hose clamp, so they are just held together by friction?

greekguy7, I did not use a second wrench to kept the elbow in place. I was really turning it slow, with control. I figured if the elbow breaks then it's time to replace the elbow anyways.

Well the bobcat rolled over the in take pipe and broke the PVC portion today.

Might as well as I didn't like the three 90 elbows. So I used the wrench and long iron pipe and removed metal 1.5" nipple from the intake side.