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 valve location - bad idea?
Author: ddbbp (KS)

In one of my "brilliant" moments, I added a garden hose valve to the piping in the ceiling of my basement (unfinished, uncovered). I did this to aid in flushing my sump pit. Figured it would also aid in draining the system down if needed.



I used a 1/2 ball valve before the garden hose gate valve.

The thing is, if its opened there is no drain below it!

Was this a poor idea? Is it against code to add an open valve without a drain below it?



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 Re: valve location - bad idea?
Author: ex apprentice 28 (MA)

You need a vacuum breaker in the faucet.

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 Re: valve location - bad idea?
Author: srloren (CA)

You said...
I used a 1/2 ball valve before the garden hose gate valve.

The thing is, if its opened there is no drain below it!

Was this a poor idea? Is it against code to add an open valve without a drain below it?

My comment is I do not understand what you are saying above. Can you state it differently understanding that we cannot see what you have so your description needs clarity.

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 Re: valve location - bad idea?
Author: ddbbp (KS)

1/2 pipe > tee > ballvalve > then the garden hose valve.

When I say no drain below, if you open the valve it would spill to floor.

Was this a poor idea?

ps I don't have vacuum breaker, is one added between the valve and the hose acceptable or should I have used a valve with the breaker part of assembly?



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 Re: valve location - bad idea?
Author: North Carolina Plumber (NC)

It was not a bad idea at all, it will come in handy at some point in the future. All you need to do is screw a vacuum breaker on the end of the hose bibb, and a hose will still screw onto the vacuum breaker.

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 Re: valve location - bad idea?
Author: ddbbp (KS)

Cool, I just thought it was against code or against good practice to have a valve without a drain to catch the water.

Come to think of it, I have seen similar valves in homes with sprinkler systems my guess is for draining the system or blowing air thru the lines.

As for the vacuum breaker, which I never used one before, I picked up a 6 dollar brass watts one.... there was more expensive ones that say self draining. This one says to not use where water could damage property... so if I siphon water out of my sump pit, it will spew all over the ceiling? Which may reason alone this wasn't a good idea since there is wiring etc that could get damaged.



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 Re: valve location - bad idea?
Author: hj (AZ)

quote; ps I don't have vacuum breaker, is one added between the valve and the hose acceptable or should I have used a valve with the breaker part of assembly?

PEople are trying to make this more complicated than necessary. The vacuum breaker goes on the end of the faucet, IF you do not have one there already, and it has NOTHING to do with this question, (if you do put one on the hose valve, you will defeat the purpose for having it since it will also restrict draining). You can put valves anywhere you want to and if they are not over a drain then hold a bucket under them. There is NO CODE issue doing it.



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 Re: valve location - bad idea?
Author: hj (AZ)

quote; so if I siphon water out of my sump pit, it will spew all over the ceiling? Which may reason alone this wasn't a good idea since there is wiring etc that could get damaged.

WHOA, Charlie. What do you mean by "siphon the water out of the sump pit"? How are you planning to do that with the hose faucet?

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