Welcome to Plbg.com
Thank you to all the plumbing professionals who offer their advice and expertise

Over 698,000 strictly plumbing related posts

Plumbing education, information, advice, help and suggestions are provided by some of the most experienced plumbers who wish to "give back" to society. Since 1996 we have been the best online (strictly) PLUMBING advice site. If you have questions about plumbing, toilets, sinks, faucets, drains, sewers, water filters, venting, water heating, showers, pumps, and other strictly PLUMBING related issues then you've come to the right place. Please refrain from asking or discussing legal questions, or pricing, or where to purchase products, or any business issues, or for contractor referrals, or any other questions or issues not specifically related to plumbing. Keep all posts positive and absolutely no advertising. Our site is completely free, without ads or pop-ups and we don't tract you. We absolutely do not sell your personal information. We are made possible by:  

Post New
Search
Log In
How to Show Images
Newest Subjects
 Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: psychopengy (ID)

I'm replacing a bathroom sink with a ceramic drop-in model. The new sink's cut-out template calls for a 17 3/4" dia. cut-out. Unfortunately, the current cut-out is just under 18 1/2" dia. I REALLY don't want to replace the counter and cut a new opening. I was thinking of putting some kind of shims or spacers around the opening, gluing and screwing 3/8" plywood strips around the inside of the cut-out. The counter is particle board covered with formica. I doubt whether I can get the plywood to bend around the opening, so I'll probably have to cut short strips and attach them end to end. The new sink is supposed to be secured to the counter with silicone caulk.
My questions: 1) is this a terrible idea? 2) if not, is there a product specifically made for this?
Any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: KCRoto (MO)

Have you tried the new sink? you are talking about 3/4" total, or 3/8 all around, which may be covered by the rim of a ceramic drop in sink. If it still won't work, I would replace the top of the cabinet and put new formica on. I personally wouldn't leave an open gap that water could seep into and destroy the countertop.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: North Carolina Plumber (NC)

I use Poly Seam Seal to secure drop in lavatories.
If the opening is too big, replacement of the top is the only viable option as I see it.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: packy (MA)

if the sink is 18 inch round and the opening is 17 3/4 inch it might just cover. just slightly but if it will cover then shims of some sort brought up to the height of the formica will give you somewhere to glue the sink down.
as suggested use polyseamseal. apply a generous coating to cover all the shims and the formica. set the sink, clean up with a damp cloth and wait a day until using.
make sure the drain is lined up dead center because you have no play here.
AGAIN, cover everything well with caulking to make darn sure there is no chance of water getting under the rim..

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: hj (AZ)

Why didn't you get a "standard" 19" drop in sink which is what is usually used. 17 3/4" sinks are typically undermount or rim type.

Post Reply

 Thanks for your reply. smile
Author: psychopengy (ID)

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I've set the new sink in the opening and it does cover it, but not by much. The current cut-out is 3/8" larger all the way around than the template calls for, by that I mean that there is 3/8" less countertop around the edge for the sink to sit on. I guess I'm nervous about not following the installation specs, but I don't have the time or money to replace the whole counter top.



Edited 1 times.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: psychopengy (ID)

I should have mentioned that I did buy a standard 19" diameter sink. The cut-out template that comes with the new sink calls for a 17 3/4" cut out. My cut-out is 18 7/16". So my options seem to be 1) replace the countertop and cut a new opening to the specifications (ugh!) 2) place shims around the present opening to bring it to the specified size, 3) try to find a good quality sink that will fit in the current opening. I'm looking but no luck so far, or 4) try to find the same sink that I'm replacing, which is a cheapo that will probably rust out quickly and I'll have to replace it again.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: packy (MA)

if the new sink covers the available opening, just put some shims or blocking inside the cut out, lather it up with a good polyseamseal caulking and shmush the new sink into the caulking. if you have sufficient caulking with no gaps for water to run under the rim, once the adhesive caulking sets, the sink is going nowhere...

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: hj (AZ)

The sink should cover the cut out, so just install it, then seal the rim to the counter top.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: m & m (MD)

Set it in Polyseamseal and let it cure for 12-24 hours. Then caulk the countertop-to-sink joint with Polyseamseal and it will never leak or budge. Promise.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: packy (MA)

if he puts a generous bead of polyseamseal down before setting the sink, after setting and cleaning up the excess he will not need any additional caulking. in this case, more is better.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: hj (AZ)

If the new sink "covers" the cutout, why bother with shims? The sink is not going to fall through the hole.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: ravi102769 (VA)

Spend the thirty bucks and buy a Formica counter and cut a correct opening.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: packy (MA)

"If the new sink "covers" the cutout, why bother with shims?"
i agree. but it depends on how much it does overhang the cut out.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: ravi102769 (VA)

Spend the thirty bucks and buy a Formica counter and cut a correct opening.

Post Reply

 Re: Shimming bathroom sink cut-out?
Author: hj (AZ)

What possible difference could that make? The seal is made around the perimeter so unless the cutout shows around the sink there is NO way the sink can "fall through", especially a round sink, (isn't that why manhole covers are round)?

Post Reply





Please note:
  • Inappropriate messages or blatant advertising will be deleted. We cannot be held responsible for bad or inadequate advice.
  • Plbg.com has no control over external content that may be linked to from messages posted here. Please follow external links with caution.
  • Plbg.com is strictly for the exchange of plumbing related advice and NOT to ask about pricing/costs, nor where to find a product (try Google), nor how to operate or promote a business, nor for ethics (law) and the like questions.
  • Plbg.com is also not a place to ask radiant heating (try HeatingHelp.com), electrical or even general construction type questions. We are exclusively for plumbing questions.

Search for plumbing parts on our sponsor's site:




Special thanks to our sponsor:
PlumbingSupply.com


Copyright© 2024 Plbg.com. All Rights Reserved.