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Rocket Gal (Non-US)
I finished my under sink plumbing. It went well and it doesn't leak. I wondered about something though. The street 90 elbow that goes into the socket of another street 90 elbow did not go all the way in. There is about a 1/4" space ... a small ring of glue can be seen between them all the way around. It doesn't leak. Is it normal? Could it have been pushed farther into the socket? Thanks!
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KCRoto (MO)
It usually goes in all the way. If you let go of the fittings before the glue sets, it can push them apart.
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hj (AZ)
I am more concerned about HOW you did the drain, because using 2 street 90s is NOT a common way to do it. How about a picture?
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Rocket Gal (Non-US)
I replaced what was there already. The waste water exits thru the floor, instead of the wall. So the 2 90's form an arch after the p-trap, then from there it's a straight piece of abs into the floor.
The glue is really fast (as you know). And I did hold it tightly together for several seconds to avoid push out.
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hj (AZ)
quote; So the 2 90's form an arch after the p-trap, then from there it's a straight piece of abs
Actually they form an "S" trap which is illegal and subject to siphonage and sewer gas odors.
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Rocket Gal (Non-US)
Well that is disturbing. What I replaced was installed 18 years ago and since then there have been no issues at all. I wonder if an inspection was ever done because you'd think it would have been pointed out. Thanks for your input.
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North Carolina Plumber (NC)
When the drain comes up thru the floor, I install a tee to catch the P-trap, and a studor vent atop the tee.
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KCRoto (MO)
Depending on the local code in her jurisdiction. If this isn't in the U.S. then it may not be prohibited. That doesn't change the siphonage problem however.
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packy (MA)
well if it had no problem for 18 years, why would it be a problem now?
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Rocket Gal (Non-US)
It's worth repeating: No problems at all. No odour, no gurgling/choking or gasping even while draining both sinks at once. It's great to have a dry cabinet floor and get rid of the catch-bucket ! If it does need to be replaced I can get access to the ABS beneath the floor from the room directly below which has no ceiling tiles to obstruct.
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hj (AZ)
Probably not because they have been "illegal for at least 80 years.
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hj (AZ)
There is nothing you can do "underneath" to make it better. The "cure" which is only slightly better would be a air admittance valve in the cabinet, but it would not prevent a lack of drainage if the line gets slightly obstructed. You could have an obstructed artery for a long time, but you would still want to fix it once you found out about it.
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Rocket Gal (Non-US)
An AAV would be in addition to the vent that is there now. If I really needed to, (say an eagle-eyed home inspector said "hey that's an s-trap" I would replace what was needed to make it "legal" because I have access to all the ABS that drains right to the stack.
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hj (AZ)
It would NOT be "in addition to the vent that is there now", because by your description there is NO vent "now".
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Rocket Gal (Non-US)
Uh Oh ... I see... so what if I installed an air admittance valve. Would that make the s-trap legal?
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KCRoto (MO)
To do so, you would have to cut out the pipe you just replaced. If it isn't causing a problem at the moment, might as well leave it until it does. Just know that next time it needs to be reconfigured.
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hj (AZ)
If you did it correctly, then yes, but the key word is "correctly".
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Rocket Gal (Non-US)
I've seen some diagrams on some legit websites about the placement of the AAV.
This has been a very informative discussion and I've learned a lot.
That's for pointing out these things.
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pipedream69 (SD)
How about posting a photograph of under the sink?
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