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440molson (OH)
Does anyone know the ohio code, that would verify if a grease interceptor can be used as a floor drain, or if a floor drain can tie into it? If so, can someone post it please.
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hj (AZ)
There is no way it could be used AS a floor drain, but if the floor drain is in an area where grease or oil could flow into it, such as a garage, it would have to be connected to a grease interceptor or "triple basin" collector.
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440molson (OH)
So, a seperate floor drain can tie into the grease intercepter? I can't find a code to verify this.
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packy (MA)
as my friend from AZ said, if a commercial kitchen has a floor drain in close proximity to any of the sinks used for washing dishes, that floor drain must empty into a grease interceptor..
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hj (AZ)
IT would be under the garage drainage area.
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440molson (OH)
Sorry, I didn't clarify earlier. This is for a restuarant kitchen. They don't have a drain in the area. So, they will need to install a drain, and are able to tie into the interceptor. That is good, thank you. I cannot find an Ohio, nor International code that says that I can't use the interceltor as a drain, nor connecting a fd to the interceptor.
Thanks in advance, Marc
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hj (AZ)
To use the interceptor "as a drain", it would have to have an 'open' top, which is impossible. since the interceptor MUST be connected to a drain line, you can either run the floor drain through the device, or connect the floor drain before the interceptor.
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440molson (OH)
Thank you both, for your help.
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440molson (OH)
There is a 3-compartment sink, and they are wanting to use that drain, that goes to the interceptor, as a floor drain, also. Sorry about the lack of information. They are trying to avoid cutting the floor to install a floor drain.
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hj (AZ)
??? Won't they have to cut the floor for the floor drain, any way?
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KCRoto (MO)
Any time that someone needs a floor drain they are better served by cutting the floor to do so. When the floor is repaired the floor can be properly pitched to allow for drainage. Using an indirect waste isn't an ideal choice as the floor is never sloped toward the drain; In some cases I have seen a raised edge of tile installed that actually prevent water from flowing inside from the surface.
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KCRoto (MO)
I think they want to find a way to direct the waste to the triple sink drain instead of a floor drain altogether is what I am getting.
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440molson (OH)
I believe they didn't want to install a floor drain, if the 3 comp. drain could clasify as a floor drain also.
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440molson (OH)
Yes. They want to mop the floor to the sink drain, instead of installing a floor drain. If the floor drain is needed they want to know if it can be tied into the interceptor.
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440molson (OH)
Ok, sorry about the if's, and's, but's. The issue is, does the kitchen floor drain need to tie into the interceptor (grease waste), or can it go out the sanitary waste. I didn't have all of the info. until now.
Thanks again, in advance, Marc
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KCRoto (MO)
[publicecodes.cyberregs.com]
1003.3.1 Grease interceptors and automatic grease removal devices required.
A grease interceptor or automatic grease removal device shall be required to receive the drainage from fixtures and equipment with grease-laden waste located in food preparation areas, such as in restaurants, hotel kitchens, hospitals, school kitchens, bars, factory cafeterias and clubs. Fixtures and equipment shall include pot sinks, prerinse sinks; soup kettles or similar devices; wok stations; floor drains or sinks into which kettles are drained; automatic hood wash units and dishwashers without prerinse sinks. Grease interceptors and automatic grease removal devices shall receive waste only from fixtures and equipment that allow fats, oils or grease to be discharged.
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hj (AZ)
quote; if the 3 comp. drain could clasify as a floor drain also.
I suppose it could, IF you can sink it into the floor so the rim is even with the floor, but then it would be hard to wash dishes in it. HOW could a sink 36" ABOVE the floor be called a floor DRAIN?
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hj (AZ)
It can go to either one, DEPENDING on what is going to drain into it. The way you are posing the question and subsequent postings is starting to get VERY confusing. HOW is this 3 compartment sink connected to the interceptor?
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m & m (MD)
The 'sink drain' that he refers to is the floor sink that receives the indirect discharge from the 3 compartment sink above it.
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hj (AZ)
If that is the case, he kept it VERY secret in the previous posts, especially when he said they did "WANT TO CUT THE FLOOR TO INSTALL A FLOOR SINK". But, if he is referring to a floor sink, then it is obvious that it is also a floor drain, unless it is raised above the floor level, in which case the question makes no sense.
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440molson (OH)
Thanks everyone for your posts. Again, I am sorry about he confusion. The job was for an additional 2 comp. sink to the existing 3 comp sink(existing above ground interceptor). The first bid was involving an inground interceptor outside. To cut cost, the other choice was to put an above ground inter. at the new 2 comp. sink. The issue was if the floor drain needed to be tied into the grease waste, or not. If so, then the outdoor interceptor would have been the way to go.
Thanks again, Marc.
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hj (AZ)
is a completely different situation than we have been working on. And, you did not tell us any of that until now.
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440molson (OH)
I was not given all the information at first either. It helps when you have all the details.
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hj (AZ)
quote; It helps when you have all the details
Sort of like giving directions about how to fix a VW, and then they tell you it is a Bentley.
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packy (MA)
"then they tell you it is a Bentley"
or even worse a ford F450..
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hj (AZ)
I wouldn't know. The 450 is working in a field in Mexico.
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