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TbyDvl13 (MO)
This morning i found about 5-6 inches of water in my basement when i went to relight the pilot light on my Richmond 40 gallon natural gas 6 year tall water heater. Needless to say, i cannot get the pilot light relit. I have read conflicted advice as to what to do next. I do not have any experience with plumbing/water heaters. What steps, if any, can i take without having to call a "professional"?
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bernabeu (SC)
if the gas fired heater was flooded it needs to be replaced
it will be cheaper than a total rebuild
install the new one 18" above the floor as per code
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hj (AZ)
Where did the water come from? if from the water heater, the only "repair" is to replace it.
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packy (MA)
where does it say that a water heater must be installed 18" above the floor?
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KCRoto (MO)
If the tank has the flammable vapor ignition resistance built in, then you are better off replacing the tank. If it doesn't, then you will most likely have to remove the water from the gas tube and pilot light tube. I have used a torch to steam out the water from the pilot tube on occasion. If it will light and maintain a flame, the water will push out of the other line when your turn on the main burner. If it still won't light, you are better off replacing it.
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bernabeu (SC)
the FVIR issue, the international mechanical code, and common sense says so
good/best practice says so
after the flood and ruined heater says so
? why would one NOT want to 'do it right' ?
..... rant over
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hj (AZ)
quote; where does it say that a water heater must be installed 18" above the floor?
Only when the writer engages in hyperbole.
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bernabeu (SC)
a 'gas fired' water heater, unless FVIR equipped, must be 18" above finished floor
however
new heaters BUILT after 2003 are FVIR equipped and may be floor mounted
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To meet the American National Standards Institute’s (ANSI) new standard for gas water heaters, a slightly different gas water heater has hit the market. Though the change in the actual design of water heaters will differ somewhat from manufacturer to manufacturer, the objective is the same. That is to reduce the potential of fire or explosion from flammable vapors ignited by gas water heaters.
As of July 1, 2003, 30, 40, and 50-gallon, gas-fired water heaters built for sale in the United Sates must include features that will resist the ignition of flammable vapors outside of the unit. Suppliers, in an effort to capitalize on the concerns of the changeover, including the increase in price, stocked up on the conventional models. As that stock runs out, the newer appliances will be sold.
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For quite awhile, across the United States, it's been code that tanks, especially gas fired, be mounted on a pedestal to keep the burner at least 18 inches off the floor. That's to keep it from igniting fumes that tend to hug the floor. A new standard recently went into effect that mandates a baffled combustion chamber that is supposed to resolve that problem. May not apply to electric fired tanks. Check your local code!
VIC,
Care to chime in ?
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KCRoto (MO)
In what context? Was the second paragraph referring to garage installations? Both of those excerpts are taken from news articles, not from official documentation anywhere.
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bernabeu (SC)
The IRC specifies garage installation primarily because of gasoline fumes
HOWEVER
any room that communicates directly with the garage is considered to be part of the garage
SO
If there is a door between the garage and the basement ? .................
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bernabeu (SC)
also see: [www.plbg.com]
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hj (AZ)
quote; new heaters BUILT after 2003 are FVIR equipped
Until recently that only applied to heaters 50 gallon and smaller.
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hj (AZ)
It is in the gas codes, but not necessarily in the plumbing codes. Whether an area has ADOPTED the relevant gas code is a local issue. Our area had not, several years ago, so I had to tell the inspectors about it when I could not elevate the heaters, so they would approve the installation.
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hj (AZ)
quote; If there is a door between the garage and the basement ? .................
THAT door, but definition and code MUST be a "fire rated" self closing door, so it would not be a factor. Garage storage rooms are NOT protected that way, but if the room has a "sealed door" with external combustion air and upper vents it would not apply to it either.
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