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 Braided Hookup Code Legal for In Wall?
Author: cakins (MO)

Just wanted to double check some info I got from a pro plumbing supply house in town - not a big box store. They told me that the braided connector seen below is code legal for an in-wall installation. I couldn't believe that, really. I'm not a plumber, but have learned a bunch via this forum, and that just didn't sound right.



I was going to use PEX to make up the connection between the two individual valves we're installing to replace a vintage, 11" on center, tub faucet. The salesman suggested this instead and said he would trust it over PEX any day. Having had a braided connection spontaneously fail under our kitchen sink a few months ago, I don't share the same feeling, and of course the decision on what to use is mine. But I really wanted to find out if using a connection like this is even code-legal.

There is an access panel behind the tub, if that makes a difference. The access, however is in the back of an attic closet on the 2nd floor.

As always, thanks for the great insight and thoughts I always get on this forum! smile

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 Re: Braided Hookup Code Legal for In Wall?
Author: m & m (MD)

You are right, I believe that the braided supplies have a tag with disclaimer stating not to install in inaccessible areas. Go with the PEX.

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 Re: Braided Hookup Code Legal for In Wall?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

it may, or may not, be 'code compliant'

to use it in a concealed location, imo, would be bordering on insanity

the 'stainless steel' is merely an external braid over a vinyl tube ~ the seal on the ends is merely a rubber washer/gasket ~ these connectors have a 10 year maximum life and should be replaced regularly

this is just plain common sense

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638



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 Re: Braided Hookup Code Legal for In Wall?
Author: cakins (MO)

That's pretty much what I thought. Hence my surprise to hear it coming from a salesman at a supply house for real plumbers.

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 Re: Braided Hookup Code Legal for In Wall?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

keyword being: salesman

smiling smiley

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: Braided Hookup Code Legal for In Wall?
Author: hj (AZ)

Why aren't you connecting them together with brass nipples? That is how I made my 11" valves back in the old days. Of course, now I buy California Brass 11" valves.

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 Not a concealed space?
Author: steve (CA)

If there is an access panel, I don't think it's a concealed space. When you install the hoses in a kitchen sink cabinet, they're not considered to be in a concealed space. The pump and heater of a whirlpool tub can be located behind a tub access panel. Those hoses wouldn't be my first choice for connecting the valves, but I don't think it's against code.

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 Re: Not a concealed space?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

code or not is not the point

'best practice' IS

or even 'good practice'

'under the sink' is routinely accessed and therefor visible

the access panel of a 'roman tub' ?

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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 Re: Not a concealed space?
Author: hj (AZ)

quote; the access panel of a 'roman tub' ?

Is that a guess or intuition, because I did not see anything about a "Roman tub", just a "vintage tub" with a 3 valve wall faucet, which would usually NOT be a Roman tub.

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 Re: Not a concealed space?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

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There is an access panel behind the tub, if that makes a difference. The access, however is in the back of an attic closet on the 2nd floor.



I used 'roman tub' as an example / question to show that an access panel is a far cry from an often accessed and therefor visible cabinet under a sink.

hj, nice try at busting them though

smiling smiley

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"Measure Twice & Cut Once" - Retired U.A. Local 1 & 638

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