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Marko1 (MO)
So my new toilet, maiden flush all seemed good, then a few hrs later i saw there was water around the bottom of the bowl.
don't see any leaks at fill tube or tank/bowl gasket so assume the wax had to leak
so..
if I remove it and just put another wax without the plastic flange on top of the existing wax that did have the plastic flange, should that work?
or should i remove and discard the original one and get one of those high boys?
i'm surprised, didnt' seem like the flange was going to be too low, but it is what it is.
do you guys just always use the extra tall ones for good measure? or can you have too much wax?
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North Carolina Plumber (NC)
Double check the supply line, at both ends and check the packing nut. Feel under the tank around the tank bolts. If everything is dry remove the toilet and if the top of the flange is not above the finish floor, then use an extra thick wax seal, or double up on the regulars.
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Marko1 (MO)
so is it ok to put a new double wax on top of the existing one?
don't need to discard and only use new for some reason?
and while i'm on the subject of wax rings, do you guys use the ones with plastic funnel attached or is that something for us amatures?
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North Carolina Plumber (NC)
I do not use the seals with the plastic funnels.
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Marko1 (MO)
removed toilet, wax ring is tightly adhered to bottom of bowl
the old cast iron flange is bigger in diameter than the wax ring od
the outer rim of the flange above the finish floor is about 3/4" wide
the outer edge of the wax ring barely left 1/8" wide wax residue on inside diameter of iron flange (so outside dia of wax is almost same as id flange)
inside the flange id is a 1/2" wide lead joint, which is 1/2" below the top of flange
inside the lead is the chipped or rusted uneven top of ci pipe which protrudes 1/8" to 3/8" above the lead.
so there's a trough 1/2x1/2 inside the flange that got no wax contact
also the bottom of the wax ring which is still attached to bottom of bowl has bits of rust debris embedded in it now
so my questions are:
should i get a plain wax ring/no plastic funnel, and shove it down in the trough to fill that area with wax up to the top of the flange?
should i carve off the rust debris from the bottom of existing wax ring so it's a clean surface?
and then should i use one more plain wax ring below the existing one on the bowl, as opposed to removing the wax from the bowl and adding the new wax on top of it?
that will mean the plastic funnel won't go far down into the ci pipe, which it already is a very short little funnel and i don't think it goes inside the pipe even now as it is.
or should i get a taller wax ring with a longer funnel(if there is such a thing)
this one came with the toilet but i think i've seen longer funnels in off the shelf rings.
it's kind of mysterious cause there is no water or wetness in that trough on the lead joint, i would have expected that to be full of water if the leak was at the wax ring but i saw no water from the tank gasket or tank bolts so seems like it had to be from the wax?
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