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Marko1 (MO)
Hi, since toilet bolts always flop around making hard to lower toilet down on them, why is it not common to put a nut on top of the flange to hold them in place? I know they have those little plastic retainers, which are better than nothing, but still a bit of a pain for me, but I'm assuming there's some reason not to fix them securely to the flange...what is it?
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bernabeu (SC)
if, repeat if, the flange was set at the CORRECT elevation there is not enough clearance for them - the top of the flange would ALMOST be actually touching the bottom of the bowl - ergo the plastic 'retainers'
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packy (MA)
there is plenty of room for a securing nut to fit inside the bolt holes in the toilet bowl.
I do it all the time.
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hj (AZ)
Laziness and saving about ten cents. I always nut my bolts to the flange.
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hj (AZ)
Even if that were the case, and it is not, the nuts would fit into the holes in the bowl which are MUCH LARGER than needed for the bolts.
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WC (VA)
Tip for DIYS types ( i R 1 )
During installation, the toilet must be held directly above the toilet flange/wax seal before lowering down onto seal. To help locate the flanges vertical bolts while you are fumbling around with a heavy toilet in you hand try the following.
Before starting, place a piece of tape on the floor/tile at each side of toilet flange opposite the bolts. The tape should be away from the flange and out of the area that the toilet will final set. Mark a straight line on each piece of tape in the direction of the bolts (the line would imaginary extend thru the center line of the flange). This will help locate where the bolts are (while your vision is blocked by the toilet in hand) before lowering the toilet directly down onto the wax seal.
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m & m (MD)
I form the wax so that it "holds" the bolts in place.
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Author:
PlumerDan (CA)
All the wax rings I use come with double nuts and s/s washers.just put a washer on ,turn a nutupside down and screw it tight.
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hj (AZ)
That won't help when the toilet is removed and the nuts have corroded slightly.
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Marko1 (MO)
hj, what won't help when the nuts corrode?
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packy (MA)
i believe hj is refering to the stainless washers not helping if the nuts corrode.
you have to understand that since we are just weeks away from the D-backs starting spring training that hj may be feeling a touch of depression.
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hj (AZ)
Using wax to secure the bolts when the toilet is installed. That will NOT prevent the bolt from turning if the nut has corrosion, or if the thread was damaged when the bolt was cut off.
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hj (AZ)
quote; I form the wax so that it "holds" the bolts in place.
THAT is the statement I was referring to and it says NOTHING about "stainless steel washers". And will do NOTHING to help hold the bolts when the nut has corrosion and/or the bolt was cut off with a bolt cutter, or partially sawed and then snapped off.
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Marko1 (MO)
thanks Hj
sometimes it's hard in a chat to tell which answer goes with which post since the answers here aren't attached to the post you reply to but just appear at the bottom of the list
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dlh (TX)
if you collapse the threads it will show you which post it was referring to
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hj (AZ)
If you follow the "arrow" it will lead you up to the item being referred to.
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