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DanielS (NY)
I purchased a small old house, but my well is cross the street and unavailable at this time (due to a house fire, which was there). Stunningly, there is no room in my little yard for a new well and therefore I have no running water.
My only chance is to obtain water from a kind neighbor, who is few yards away and has a separate well. He also has a good pressure container. What type of contemporary water pipes should I buy for drinking water, and what type of equipment? Are these PEX pipes? Where exactly can I connect to my neighbor's pipes?
Thanks very much in advance for your feedback.
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RWP (SD)
My advice to you is to contact a qualified plumber to go over this work, you want to do, with you and then give you a price to do it. You are not qualified to do what you want done. Pipes must be buried below the frost line and PEX is not what you will be using for the whole job. If the work is not done correctly then you will have many more problems than you now have.
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DanielS (NY)
Being on social security, I don't know how I could pay for such a huge project... I just hoped to follow some advice from professionals who are altruistic enough to protect people. Obviously, I will not work on this project myself. But I still need to have basic knowledge, if I hire someone.
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Author:
hj
quote; But I still need to have basic knowledge, if I hire someone.
Not really. If he is the right person for you, all you have to do is tell him what you need, and HE will decide the best way to do it, given your finances.
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APH624 (NY)
Hi Daniel,
First thing, New York State does not have licensing for plumbers, but certain Towns, Counties and most major Cities do, so check with your Town to see if licensing is required. Always hire a licensed or qualified PROFESSIONAL to do the job, they know what they are doing! You can use PEX tubing, however, PEX Tubing MUST BE INSTALLED in CONDUIT and below frost line, which in NY is average 4 ft. If you are going to get water from your neighbor, make sure you do it legally, get an easement, right -of-way and have it recorded in your County. Best thing to do would be to try to get to your well by boring under the road. There again, make sure you do it legally. However you decide to do it, it's not going to be a simple and cheap task. Also, remember this, you house is worth much more if you have a drilled well or municipal water. Banks do knot like lending money to buy a house with no water or spring fed water. You're in a tough situation, but there are ways out, it's just going to cost $$$. Good luck
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DanielS (NY)
Yes, that is good. But that does not absolve me from the responsibility to have knowledge and to be in control of the process. This is my house.
It is not a matter of curiosity -- I choose to know what types of pipes exist, in order to prevent problems that might develop in the future.
I do not like to follow the "common wisdom". The common wisdom of the past, in many countries, was to install long-lasting lead pipes. Unfortunately, millions got lead poisoning from this.
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Wheelchair
Daniel, your county, can best advise you on local standards. When comes to your drinking water, your very health and those who visit you are at stake. A licensed plumber, can advise you of your best options, whether you chose their advice or not. A garden hose, is NOT enough and could be dangerous to your health and that health of others.
Best Wishes
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hj
quote; Unfortunately, millions got lead poisoning from this.
Who, besides Ralph Nader, says so? If that were true, EVERYONE in the Chicgo area including me, would be victims of lead poisoning. Lead pipes, when water runs through them, develop a patina coating to isolate the lead from the water. The same thing happens with copper solder joints. You are responding to "mass hysteria" created by the same groups that create other "hazardous conditions" in order to profit from "removing" them.
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DanielS (NY)
So why would CDC (Center for Disease Control, an agency of the US government) state: "When water sits in leaded pipes for several hours, lead can leach into the water supply"? (updated: June 11, 2010 -- [www.cdc.gov])
More quotes from the government: "Even so, lead still can be found in some metal water taps, interior water pipes, or pipes connecting a house to the main water pipe in the street. Lead found in tap water usually comes from the corrosion of older fixtures or from the solder that connects pipes". "Water that comes out of the tap warm or hot can contain much higher levels of lead" (same source as above).
I would like to see scientific study telling me that lead in pipes is OK for my drinking water. In fact the scientists are clearly warning that lead in the water supply can lead to lower test scores and brain impairment in people of all ages.
In 1995, the American Academy of Pediatrics reviewed 18 scientific studies on the correlation between children's mental abilities and lead in their blood. From 1995 until now, hundreds of studies worldwide have shown increasingly that this is a serious matter.
Lead leaches in the drinking water if the water is too acidic, or if the water is too warm, washing away the presumed protective barrier (which I doubt it even exist).
"It is part of a growing body of evidence linking lead to cognitive and behavioral problems in children" [Joint meeting of Pediatric Academic Societies and American Academy of Pediatrics, May 2000]. (http://www.fi.edu/learn/brain/metals.html )
"A vast amount of evidence accumulated over many years has shown that lead disrupts the brain function". Researchers at the Kennedy Krieger Research Institute in Baltimore found that "many of the neurotoxic effects of lead appear related to the ability of lead to mimic or in some cases inhibit the action of calcium as a regulator of cell function." [Neurochemistry Research 1999 April;24(4):595-600] and [Biochemical Pharmacology 1991 February 15;41(4):479-84].
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Author:
Wheelchair
A simple, "inline" filter will remove all lead and provide the drinking water you require. However, if you wish to play it safe, take a sample to the county health department for a free lead test. PEX, tubing has issues when laying on the ground. Copper, with lead-free solder is probably the safest way to go. If you are living in a freeze zone, make sure the pipes are buied deep enough.
Now that you know what you need... go out for bids on the project.
Best Wishes
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Author:
DanielS (NY)
Thanks for suggestions. Could you tell me what issues have been found with PEX?
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Author:
DanielS (NY)
Thanks for your feedback. Obviously, I will go through the normal channels, to obtain permits. What is "conduit" and what size is it used? I only know about electrical conduit, which is a metal pipe.
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Author:
hj
Electrical conduit is either metal or PVC. But, a "conduit" is a pipe or channel used for running something else through it.
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