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 Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: frosteemjj (SC)

I decided it would be simple to do this, but I was the only simple thing involved...

When I insert the barbed portion into the supply pipe from the wall, how much "play" or "wiggle room" should there be? Should it be somewhat difficult to insert the barbed portion?

I am reluctant to use the copper compression because I only have a couple of inches of the PEX supply line sticking out from the wall. I had to cut one of those rings off before I could remove the old valve. @#$%& that I am, I let the guy at Ace throw the old one in the trash, so I cannot test whether the older one moved freely inside the supply line.

If I need to measure something, should I get a caliper and measure in inner diameter or should I measure the outer diameter.

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: packy

no play at all..
use the compression stop. don't forget the insert.

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: frosteemjj (SC)

Thanks for the help.

I don't have an insert, and the one I took off didn't either; however, the "push-on" I bought as my first try had one (about two inches long, with a "lip" (???) one one end). That one leaked like crazy, but it did not have the "barbed" insertable end.

Right now, I have the leaky one on just so I can get water, and I'm just catching the overflow in a pan.

Just to make sure, PEX is a plastic-like pipe? The copper ring fit over it perfectly.

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: packy

the pex insert looks like this but it is stainless steel.
i've used hundreds of compression stops on pex and never had a problem.
http://www.toolstation.com/images/library/stock/webbig/95584.jpg

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: jimmy-o (CA)

Packy...are you partaking in the festivities in Byfield this weekend? Even though it is my 50th, I couldn't convince myself I needed to attend. I guess I will just read about the events later on!

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: frosteemjj (SC)

Packy...

Thanks for taking the time to be helpful and also not condescending to someone with my lack of knowledge.

I have decided to just call in a plumber, since it appears the water infeed isn't the usual stuff. It is thin-walled and is is not nearly as "stiff" as the PEX I looked at today at the Ace dealer.

I'll use my waiting time to just work on something I actually CAN do: I'll clean up the clutter in my guest room. :-)

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: SwimRunPlumb (MI)

packy, just out of curiousity, why do you use compression stops on pex? Why not just use a pex stop?

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: North Carolina Plumber (NC)

You probably have polybutylene coming out of the wall. A pex fitting will be too small to work properly, a transition crimp coupling would fix it.

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: packy

no jimmy, i'm not.

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: hj

The biggest reason would be that it will have to be replaced someday.

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: SwimRunPlumb (MI)

Good point, I can't believe that never crossed my mind. I typically always try to think of the next guy too. Guess I will just start cutting the stub outs a little longer from now on.

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 Re: Replacing toilet water shutoff Zurn barbed PEX tube
Author: hj

Or use compression valves.

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