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 2 toto drakes----mystery leak
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

i got a call back today on a new house i completed last week

i installed 3 toto drakes and was told 2 were leaking

it was wet around the base...so wet that it was soaking into the woodwork, so the builder turned the water to the toilets off.

last week they showed no sign of leaking after a 1 hour testing process i go through when i finish the project...the leaks seemed to show up 2-3 days later

so i show up today, turn the water back on...flushed each toilet 25x!!! and sat 45 mins waiting to see a leak....nothing

i tightened the tank bolts and the supply just in case before i left

my only thought is someone pee'd all over the floor...on 2 toilets....i had the builder ask the homeowner if his young son used either of them and was told no.

im at a loss for whats going on if its not pee

i have had tank to bowl gasket issues with drakes made in different countries and these toilets had bowls from Mexico and tanks from USA, but the issue typically shows up within a few minutes....so it doesnt appear that thats the issue

both toilets show no sign of leaking from the basement looking up...the 90's are clean and 25 flushes each would have exposed a wax seal issue

if i get a call back again ill just replace both of them(this job is 2 hours away)...it cost me $500 out of my pocket today just to go look.



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 Re: 2 toto drakes----mystery leak
Author: steve (CA)

Any chance it was from condensation?

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 Re: 2 toto drakes----mystery leak
Author: SwimRunPlumb (MI)

Condensation or someone leaned on the tank pretty hard when they were sitting on it causing it to leak.

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 Re: 2 toto drakes----mystery leak
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

i am considering condensation too

its not very hot here yet in WI, so normal condensation= no, but this is a unique house

its a SIPS (Styrofoam insulated Panel System)...and it has Spancrete 1st floor floors...there are lots of holes cored in it and someone drilled a week ago into it and water came out from the core drillers 5 months ago...so there could be some odd moisture stuff going on there.

it doesnt seem humid in their at all and the temps are 40's to low 70's right now

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 Re: 2 toto drakes----mystery leak
Author: hj

quote; it and water came out from the core drillers 5 months ago

That would be stretching our credibility for it to NOT evaporate in 5 months.

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 Re: 2 toto drakes----mystery leak
Author: Paul48 (CT)

SIP....Structural Insulated Panel. Are the bathrooms well ventilated, and is the ventilation being used? If the fan is on a switch by itself, many folks forget to turn it on when showering. Adding anything not in the original plans with SIP walls gets very expensive.To create a chase for wires,or pex, they heat a ballbearing until it's cherry red, and drop it in the foam, then take it out of a hole they make at the bottom of the wall.



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 Re: 2 toto drakes----mystery leak
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

I would have had to dye test with red.Sorry this does not seem to be a simple defective flapper issue,but see this failure as a start point.Sorry to ask.but how where your flange to bowl settings?You shimmed and grouted these bowls? Truly, you must get to the bottom of any water issues now.before water is mold.water in a cell of core drilled after? sounds very ugly to me!!!



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