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Author:
septicsissies (CO)
We have 3 pressure assisted toilets and two of them have begun leaking. After looking at the wax seals, we figured out that we need taller wax seals, given the flooring height. But before we put new seals in and possibly have them fail again, we were curious if the pressure assisted toilets need a different or better seal for the additional pressure. Keep in mind that these wax rings came with the additional plastic sleeves. Any thoughts??
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Author:
packy
i would use a closet flange extension kit with a regular wax seal.
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Author:
Wheelchair
How ironic... I had a short meeting with the guys from Flushmate at the KBIS or Kitchen and Bath Show just today. Found out they made a 1.0 gpf system for most toilets including Glacier Bay toilets. There should be an 800 number on the top of your tank. Please call them and as their tech service reps.
Best Wishes
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Author:
jerco (MD)
Do not use the Wax rings with plastic funnels inside. They only cause splashback and leaks. Just a regular wax ring. Also raise and/or replace the flange to sit on top of finished floor, or use extensions as packy suggests.
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Author:
hj
Other than a bit more initial velocity, the pressure toilets do not put any additional force on the wax seal, but many plumbers, including myself, consider the "plastic sleeve" to cause more leaks than they prevent.
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Author:
mr leak (CA)
A more derailed explanation of why the wax seal with the flange causes issues? Explain and does "everyone agree?
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Author:
hj
quote; does "everyone agree?
When has "everone" agreed on anything. WE use empirical evidence and our experiences to make a decision like that.
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Author:
North Carolina Plumber (NC)
Yes, I think we all agree. The plastic funnel is a restriction in the water flow path as soon as the water leaves the bowl.
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Author:
hj
quote; The plastic funnel is a restriction in the water flow path
I am not sure that that is the real reason, because the opening in the funnel is larger than the toilet's opening, but I still believe it will cause a leak for SOME reason.
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Author:
packy
does everyone agree???
for sure, the only thing we can all agree on is the yankees winning the world series.
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Author:
septicsissies (CO)
Thank you very much to all those who replied. This was just the kind of advice we were looking for. I will use a flange extension, and wax rings without the plastic center and see what happens. Thanks!
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Author:
waukeshaplumbing (WI)
i would not use those extensions...ive had them leak
i recommend a thick wax ring or (2) wax rings...i double them up all the time and never get a call back on it...it works...
i assume were only talking 1/2" below the floor right?
all toilets use the same wax ring
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Author:
LemonPlumber (FL)
if the flange to toilet is 1/2"to 1/8" less the toilet and wax are correctly joined.If the toilets rock or have moved the installed failed because it should have been set shimmed and base sealed!!!!!.No there is no need to use a horned wax seal nor the glue sealed neoprene type unless your toilets are set to a floating wood surface.So simply reinstall with regular wax and set the base, to stay in place!!!
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Author:
hj
And WHY should we agree on that, at this time. They have faltered in the past, such as 2001, and it could happen again. Even the Red Sox could "rise again", like a Phoenix bird.
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Author:
LemonPlumber (FL)
Christ, even the cubs could win if the fans did not need ever ball with in their reach,LOL!!!
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Author:
hj
If the Cubs EVER win a World Series, what would we have to look forward to afterwards. Now, we can ALWAYS have hope.
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Author:
LemonPlumber (FL)
HJ.I feel it.cannot let go.
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