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vharris (WI)
I want to move my toilet over a few inches, but there is a floor joist in the way. Is there anyway around this problem or am I going to have to leave the toilet where it is? Any advice on the matter would be greatly appericated.
I aplogize for my post I was half awake last night when I wrote it. I want to move my toilet 6 inches or so. It is on the main level of my house and I have a full basement. The previous owner nailed a 8ft 2x6 to the original joist. There is a bathtub in the bathroom but it is supported by the joists to the right of the one in the picture.
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LemonPlumber (FL)
where cutting the floor joist is the only option you see leave it.where the dwv tubing may be rerouted below the joist?An engineered system or two by floor joists?Sorry No is the best answer.but where you do not need to cut, the upper or lower third of the lumber you might be ok.Big might.could you post a picture of the tubing and floor construction?
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North Carolina Plumber (NC)
An offset flange will give you a couple inches. You might be able to cut the joist and head it off. Depending on the joist height you may be able to notch the top and 45 out of it.
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Author:
hj
Show us the floor joist and where you want to put the toilet and THEN we can tell you. However, a "few inches" usually means it cannot be done unless the joist is modified.
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Author:
Wheelchair
"A Few Inches...." doesn't begin to accurately describe your issue without knowing the exact measurements. An offset will work for less then 2 inches but if you are considering more..I'd hire a licensed plumber. Besides structual issues, you want to be sure that your toilet functions properly.
Best Wishes
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE NOTCH OR 'CUTOUT' AN EXISTING JOIST
The 'structure' can be 'boxed out' but it would involve a virtual re-do of the ceiling below.
'Google' installing a staircase for the general principle of 'boxing' joists.
You will need to 'double up' adjacent joists and 'bridge' them to provide desired opening for new piping location w/o affecting load carrying ability of existing (ESPECIALLY IN A BATHROOM).
example:
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Measure twice, cut once.
Retired Plumbers Local Union #1
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Author:
NICK (CA)
is this on a top story or on a lower story with crawlspace below? if it is a lower floor and you have good access you can span the cut joist to the adjacent joists and then ad piers to transfer the load to the ground. If it is an upper story it would be difficult without tearing off the ceiling in that bay and spanning the bearing walls with a new joist or joists. You dont want a flexing floor, especially in a bathroom where tile or future tile will crack. And if their happens to be a bathtub on a compromised floor and it is filled with water and a person it is a lot of weight.
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Author:
packy
come-on bernbeau. notching of joist are done all the time. follow guidelines and no harm is done.
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Author:
vharris (WI)
I aplogize for my post I was half awake last night when I wrote it. I want to move my toilet 6 inches or so. It is on the main level of my house and I have a full basement. The previous owner nailed a 8ft 2x6 to the original joist. There is a bathtub in the bathroom but it is supported by the joists to the right of the one in the picture.
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Author:
packy
i can't open it..
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
packy:
Quote:Whenever a hole or notch is
cut into a member, the structural
capacity of the piece is weakened
and a portion of the load supported
by the cut member must be
transferred properly to other joists.
It is best to design and frame a
project to accommodate mechanical
systems from the outset, as
notching and boring should be
avoided whenever possible; however,
unforeseen circumstances
sometimes arise during
construction.
thanx for the support of my position
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Measure twice, cut once.
Retired Plumbers Local Union #1
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Author:
jerco (MD)
bernabeu - That quote in no way supports your possition that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE should you NOTCH OR 'CUTOUT' AN EXISTING JOIST. It actually says that sometimes circumstances arise that require such.
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Author:
mr leak (CA)
We can help if you post a picture of the floor and more info. if one can access this area. Could not open your picture Floor joists are cut and notched but need to be headed off no big deal if you can access this area
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Author:
bernabeu (SC)
Quote:bernabeu - That quote in no way supports your possition that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE should you NOTCH OR 'CUTOUT' AN EXISTING JOIST. It actually says that sometimes circumstances arise that require such.
and when required:
"...the load supported
by the cut member must be
transferred properly to other joists"
however, i will modify my OP to state "......w/o making provisions for tranferring the load"
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Measure twice, cut once.
Retired Plumbers Local Union #1
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Author:
LemonPlumber (FL)
Sorry V.http, encountered an error in the post.will not open.post the picture to photo bucket for forums or other free hosting site?Image shack?
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Author:
bobsmith00 (NJ)
You can move your toilet up to 6 inches and more but for that you should take advice from an expert, if you post a picture and actual measurements of bathroom then I can help you.
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Author:
hj
qutoe; You can move your toilet up to 6 inches and more but for that you should take advice from an expert
Why the "6 inches" limit? If he wants to, he can move the toilet SIXty FEET, but he should still get expert advice first.
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Author:
LemonPlumber (FL)
As I said.you roll the tubing to serve under and then rise to the new location.looks like the horizontal should work under the wood.
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