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 gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

i have a builder who wants a log lighter valve inside the fire box itself...i cannot find a legal valve and because of the rubber internal valve parts i dont expect to find one..

im just checking with you guys to see if anyone knows of such a product?

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: phillyplbg (PA)

How about a dante valve, it will fit flush against the stone or wall next to the fire place

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: hj

Probably because it would be illegal. The shutoff MUST be outside the firebox, but close enough so that you can operate it while igniting the log lighter. Inside the firebox, it would be impossible to operate in the event of a malfunction and/or blaze inside the firebox.

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: dlh (TX)

never seen one and would never install one if i had since it would be almost impossible to shut off without burning yourself

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

i agree....i told the builder to do a log lighter w/ the valve in the wall...he didnt want to open up the wall and the product he was planning on using(whatever it was) wont work...im letting the fireplace installers figure it out now

thanks for the advice!

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

Gas valve inside fireplace?

Can we say: 'CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE' ???

:X

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: SMSPlumbing (PA)

All the log lighter installation documents I have dealt with state:

GAS LINE INSTALLATION : Do not install gas controls inside the firebox burn chamber. Gas controls must be appropriately located away from fire or properly shielded to prevent overheating from exposure to the wood fire. Pipes present in the firebox chamber will conduct heat. To avoid a fire hazard, maintain ½” clearance from log lighter to combustibles within 6” of point where gas line passes through the side of any fireplace.

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: bernabeu (SC)

DOH

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: Royboysc (SC)

Log lighters have been removed from our list of acceptable appliances because they don't have a pilot light or thermocouple to shut them off.

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: dlh (TX)

that is about stupid since should be shut off after the fire has started anyway, hence the name "log lighter"

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 Re: gas shut off valve inside the fireplace fire box?
Author: Royboysc (SC)

Yes, the valve SHOULD be shut off after the fire starts but sometimes it takes a little time to start the wood to burn and if the homeowner dials it way down, a downdraft might blow it out.

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