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Author:
Lee (NJ)
Hey Guys:
What do I do? I have old toilet. House built in 1950's. Toilet is Eljer. Looks like I need flush valve the black rubber ball that floats into the hole in bottom of tank and the linkages the metal rod type of linkages. In the tank it says Eljer November 26, 1954 then there is a number 97 also stamped into the tank wall. The toilet runs. Looks like it is due to black ball not seating properly. I think the Tenant tried to fix and he bent the linkage from the "end" of the lever coming from the toilet flush handle to the straight rod connecting to the black ball. I believe I need linkages and black ball from the end of the toilet flush handle going down to black ball.
Thank you,
Lee
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Author:
waukeshaplumbing (WI)
you can look for a generic rebuild kit...id recommend throwing it out and replacing it with something new. its wasting water...if you pay for water you will save enough in water savings to pay for itself in a couple of years....and you'll have a new toilet with easy to get parts. i wouldnt rebuild anything 20-30 years old...yours is 50 years old...its a no brainer
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Author:
hj
The lower "lift wire" which screws into the ball MUST be straight. The upper one can be bent in many ways without affecting the proper operation of the tank ball. Without seeing your actual system, we cannot tell you WHY it does not seal properly, but the "guide" must be almost precisely aligned for the ball to drop straight.
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Author:
LemonPlumber (FL)
Strange as this may sound.a Fliud master toilet repair kit with the flush valve may very well repair this toilet.It has a long riser on the flush valve, longer than most need and also has a flapper that will set to a given closed position water bound or not.I would advise a replacement toilet though.as said.Even if your on a well and septic.the amount of water you will save is large!
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Good Luck. Insulate your hot piping, although costly, it will pay you back every day.
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Author:
Shoemaker2 (MA)
I am guessing that the toilet has a built in overflow and china flush valve. I know of a place here that sells the kit that you need so I figure other places have them too.
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Author:
PlumberManDan (IA)
Why not just replace the dinosour, and be done with it, just be sure to purchase a MAPP 1000 rated toilet to replace it with.
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Plumbermandan
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Author:
Lee (NJ)
Thanks everyone for your help.
Shoemaker it does have a built in overflow. I will do some research and look into finding the parts that you think are available.
To the guys that think it should be replaced due to water usage I believe you have a good point. However the toilet does match the tile in the 1950's bathroom and since everything comes back or is back. The bathroom is in good shape and looks 1950 nice/retro.
Maybe I can find the original parts or try the fluidmaster suggestion.
Society is indebted to you guys for your trade and your help here on this site.
Lee
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Author:
waukeshaplumbing (WI)
you can find a new toilet which looks old.
1950s really wasnt that great of a time period for fixtures...1920's or 30's yes...1950's was pretty plain...
finding parts and rebuilding will take alot of your time and you may end up replacing it anyways in the end...if you have more time than money go for it.
i say replace anything even close to that age...you could rebuild cars from 1950 and only buy 1 car per lifetime also...but its gets silly....your toilet is long past that silly stage in my opinion.
in the long run replacement will save you money on water usage. in five years you'll be making money off that toilet!
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Author:
LemonPlumber (FL)
Your call.the flush fixer has two very important parts.clean and dry setting and short handle pull.so the handle cannot try to pull the valve free of it's seating.
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Good Luck. Insulate your hot piping, although costly, it will pay you back every day.
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Author:
Lee (NJ)
Thank you guys.
Lee
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Author:
Wheelchair
Why not call Eljet div of American Standard at their new number.
800-442-1902 and only use factory original repair parts for the best results.
Best Wishes
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Author:
hj
Well, since the OEM parts were probably made by Lavelle, Fluidmaster, or Coast, etc. generic parts usually work quite will.
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