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waukeshaplumbing (WI)
i got the spec's on the new Rheem heat pump waterheater today...im adding it to my list. $1400 my cost....dont think ill be selling too many....
anyone installed one yet? any selling idea's?
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m & m (MD)
Just forewarn your customers up there in WI that a basement install of a heat pump water heater will turn their basement into an igloo come late fall, early winter. No, haven't installed one yet. Rheem put it on the market, took it off, and now its back on.
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waukeshaplumbing (WI)
one of my builders thought it would do that too
is the Rheem and the GE the same unit?
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Author:
hj
Same company, so it would have to be the same unit.
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woberkrom (MO)
We installed a customer supplied GE model.
From what I can tell, the heat pump is just stealing heat from the home. It has a low recovery rate as well. The customer is has already had us back to install an additional heater...
I am pretty sure the GE model is made in China. I thought it was a Rheem or A.O. Smith product, but it appears to be something actually made by GE in China.
--Will
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vermco (Non-US)
I saw the Rheem ad too and asked my supply store, they told me they don't know hardly anything about it. Interesting though even up here in Canada.
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woberkrom (MO)
GE pushed the heater during the winter Olympics.
I just can't understand how it is more efficient. It takes the heat of your home to heat up the water via the heat pump. Well, the house only got hot in the first place from either the furnace or the sun. If the sun is doing the heating, then the AC is probably engaged and the heat pump may be helping somewhat as it is "pumping" heat from the room you are trying to cool. However, if you are heating your home with your furnace, and then the heat pup is "pumping" that heat into your water, isn't the heat pump working against the furnace?
Maybe if it was "pumping" outside air or inside air as it made sense?
It just doesn't make sense to me.
A regular electric water heater is like 100% efficient before standby loss isn't it? How is the heat pump style more efficient?
--Will
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hj
A heat pump is like a refrigerator in reverse. It does NOT create heat, it transfers existing heat. With a refrigerator the heat is removed from the box and transfered into the room, but a water heater takes the heat from the room and sends it to the tank, which means that the original area has to get cooler, since it is the "ice box". That original heat is usually NOT free, unless the heat pump is outdoors during the summertime.
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PBwrencher (WI)
About 20-25 years ago Rheem invested in Manufacturing in Mexico, aren't they coming from there
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woberkrom (MO)
I was told by a rep that that the GE unit is coming from china, and that it isn't made by Rheem.
For what it is worth, Rheem is owned by Paloma, a Japanese company. A lot of Chinese people don't like Japan and by extension its products because of the things that transpired between the two countries during WWII.
This would dovetail well with the GE product, if it was made in China, not being a Rheem/Paloma product.
As an aside, A.O. Smith has a relationship with Rinnai in part because A.O. Smith is a conduit for Rinnai's tankless heaters into China. Or so I have been told.
The water heater world is a pretty small world in a lot of ways.
--Will
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PBwrencher (WI)
Yea, the Japanese must still tread very lightly from Australia to Manchuria and from India to Midway those countries were gravely hurt back then by the Rising Sun.
It's really to bad now because; they could clean out the pirates in Philippine and Indonesian waters keeping those trade routs safer if they were permited to extend there power.
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***A bath a day will keep you healthy in every way.***
***Safe plumbing brings life and health giving water into our homes, businesses, hospitals and takes away death and disease causing waste***
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woberkrom (MO)
Just to confirm, the GE model is made for/by GE in China, although they are going to start manufacturing them stateside in Louisville some time this year.
The Rheem product is similar, but is not the same product as the GE. Apparently the GE is "more efficient than the Rheem product.
--Will
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