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 Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: tulsajeff (OK)

I had no flushing problems whatsoever with my 2 main toilets. Well.. There was a little leakage around the bottom of the toilets and I decided to replace the wax rings. I did this and caulked the bottom of the toilet to the tile floor when I was done.

Immediately the toilets are barely flushing. Sometimes they will flush very slowly but sometimes they just run over.

A guy at work told me it could be my vents on top of the roof being clogged up and since I just sealed off the air it was getting from under the toilet, it is now unable to suck air and is creating a vacuum.

Is this possible?

I have found something that seems to work sometimes.. I can open the cleanout drain outside and then put it back on loosely. This will cause the problem to go away for a week or two.

This could be coincidental as I have only done this twice so far and the fact that today it is not working.

Any ideas?

By the way.. I do have a bathroom in the laundry room that is not having a problem and never really has however we never use it either. The only time it gets used is when I am testing to see if the toilets are fixed I will usually flush it a couple of times to see if it is having a problem.

I need some guidance here;-)

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: nhmaster3015 (NH)

More likely you squashed the wax ring and it's partially blocking the outlet.

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: tulsajeff (OK)

what are the chances this would have happened in both toilets? I have done this numerous times before with no problems...

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: dlh (TX)

pretty good chances

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: tulsajeff (OK)

So are you guys telling me I have to pull both toilets back up or is there a way to correct this from the top?

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: dlh (TX)

either that or you main line is clogged

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: hj (AZ)

Your friend may have given you at least some good advice. If removing the cleanout plug lets it flush, then you have a main sewer stoppage, AND a vent problem, but since vents seldom get clogged, those toilets probably have air admittance valves for the vent and the one that has no problem is the one with the proper vent through the roof.

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: hj (AZ)

Don't do it because that is not likely to be the problem. It seldom, if ever, is.

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: jimmy-o (CA)

Toilets will flush just fine without any vent at all. Fine, that is except the trapway tends to be siphoned dry. Failure to flush is most likely a blockage.

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: tulsajeff (OK)

I have 3 bathrooms... my house is 90 feet long with one bathroom at the far end master bedroom, one in the center and one in the other end at the kitchen/laundry room.

The master bedroom bathroom is not flushing, the center bathroom is not flushing, but the one in the laundry room is doing great.

Here is the deal.. since the cleanout is right outside the laundry room bathroom, I am assuming that the blockage must be somewhere between the back master bedroom and the laundry room.

I am NOT having any problems with my dishwasher or the washing machine which are both between the center bathroom and the laundry room bathroom.

Can I deduce that the problem has to be beyond the center bathroom but before the kitchen or laundry room?

If this is the case, how is the best way to snake it out?

Should I remove the toilet from the floor in the center bathroom and snake it from there?

Just trying to think logically here;-)

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: hj (AZ)

BAD assumption. If the sewer is obstructed and those toilets use AAVs for their vents, the stoppage can be ANYWHERE and you will have the same problem. AND the problem will occur as soon as the water level in the sewer rises and closes off the drain connection to the toilet that is, and will still, work. Given that the working toilet is where the pipe leaves the building that condition should occur fairly quickly. The drainage when the cleanout plug is removed, complicates the diagnosis slightly.

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: tulsajeff (OK)

Here is one more question..

I said my house was long right? Well the first drain in the house is actually the shower in the master bedroom.

It would not drain this morning obviously but it gave me an idea.. would it be possible to snake that 3" shower drain instead of removing the toilet in the master bedroom.

In order of occurrence starting at the far end of the house furthest from the cleanout to the other end where the cleanout is just outside the laundry room door:

Shower
Master Bath Toilet
Center Bath and Toilet
Kitchen - dishwasher/sinks
Laundry room toilet
Laundry room - washer/sinks

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: hj (AZ)

NO! But a properly installed system will have a cleanout somewhere so you do not have to remove the toilet. I would ONLY remove the toilet as a last resort, and a plumber could NEVER snake the drain through the shower, even IF it had a 3" pipe, which yours is not likely to be.

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 Re: Toilets Not Flushing After Replacing Wax Ring
Author: nwplumber (WA)

The laundry is closest to the cleanout and has not had any problems. Does anyone else think that there may be two cleanouts? One at the far end of the house furthest from the mainline exiting the house and hopefully one at the other end where it actually exits the house. By code an accessible cleanout is suppose to be at the end of each run. I think he might be opening the cleanout at the end of a run instead of one at the exit point of the house.

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