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 running gas line to kitchen island
Author: helterMark (TX)

I have a kitchen island I want to run gas to so I can install a new gas range. It already has a electric cooktop with a exhaust vent that goes down under the floor out to an outside wall across the kitchen. On the wall that the vent comes out there is a gas line down a couple of feet for the dryer. Is it within code to run the gas line throught th wall to the vent and then throught the vent to avoid having to tear up the floor??



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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: jblanche (WI)

So you want to run a line carrying flammable gas through a duct that is intended to carry hot, grease-laden exhaust?

I am sure this does not sound like a good idea to you. Anyone?

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: BigReg1500 (CT)

Add the fact that the "easy" way would be to get your hands on some of that flexible gas line then punch it through the vent leaving rough, jagged edges on the sheet metal? Bad idea..

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: redwood (CT)

:think2: Is there anything more I can add to what was already said?:think2:

Oh yea, Call a plumber to run your gas line!

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: Wheelchair (IL)

You idea would not work and your home insurance agent would not cover your house, if they knew you were doing it that way. Don't do anything that would cancel your home insurance coverage.....

Best Wishes

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

scary idea...yes hire a plumber for this one!!

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: e-plumber (NY)

"Don't do anything that would cancel your home insurance coverage..... "

...or make your home disappear :eek:

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: Doug E. (CA)

you have a kitchen island with sink? if so there is plumbing under there which means access (unless it's in a slab). If you have a T in your exixting gas line you could run flex gas pipe under your floor and up into your island??

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: e-plumber (NY)

You really think it's worth it for DIY'r to go out and get certified to install CSST for one job?
*A job that requires a licensed individual to perform...

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: jimmy-o (CA)

gas pipe under slab must be in a conduit which is sealed on the house end and ventilated to the atmostphere outside the house. I would rethink the idea of having a gas stove in an island. Think about electric, or redesign the kitchen layout.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: steve (CA)

And another thing is that by adding a larger demand on the gas piping, the gas pipe from the meter needs to be checked if it is large enough for the dryer, cooktop and anything else it is supplying.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: hj (AZ)

NO, NO, NO. And if it is propane you CANNOT run the line under the floor under any conditions. IF it is natural gas, it MUST be inside a SEALED sleeve, (tested to insure it does not leak), with a vent to the exterior of the building.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: hj (AZ)

It makes no difference what we think about it, it cannot be legally done.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: hj (AZ)

"Tearing up the floor" would normally indicate a slab. As would the rest of the question.



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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: hj (AZ)

Could not use CSST, because there is no way to seal it at either end of the required sleeve.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: hj (AZ)

If you check the approved method it is sealed at BOTH ends and has a lateral vent terminated above the ground or outside the building.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: jimmy-o (CA)

Yeah, I was thinking of the common application I have seen where the sleeve itself terminates outside the house....gas line originates outside and enters the sleeve to run under the slab.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: e-plumber (NY)

I guess that would depend on where the tee is connected. Rarely, if ever do I involve the utility company by increasing the meter bar size for only a cook-top; 45K give or take.

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Repair your leaking Plumbing fixtures ASAP [www.theplumber.com]
This slow drip will waste 7+ gallons of water per day.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: dlh (TX)

yeah now if it was a tankless heater going in at 199k btu's then you would need to worry about the size of th line from the meter

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: packy (MA)

there is no correct method to install CSST in massachusetts. it has been banned..

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: hj (AZ)

The want both ends sealed so that water and debris do not get inside it to cause blockage or corrosion.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: royboy (SC)

Not all plumbers are qualified to design and install gas lines so find one that is and turn this job over to him.

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 Re: running gas line to kitchen island
Author: hj (AZ)

Especially a gas line that has to go under a floor. IN FACT, some localities will not allow ANY gas line to go under the floor. IF you want gas to an island in those areas, you have to run it overhead and then down inside a decorative column, which is what you WOULD have to do with propane gas. This area was one of them for a long time. They had allowed the proper underground piping, then it was outlawed, but has recently been approved again.

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