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 Shark-bite leak
Author: PaulaPlumbDummy (MT)

I bought a mobile home 3 years ago, I have been the repair woman from hell ever since.
The water coming into the shower (behind the wall) is leaking I used a shark-bite fitting (which have been excellent in the past) still leaks, I have used another fitting, 3 different cuts of pipe, It has been 4 days, if anyone may have a idea what I could be doing wrong I would appreciate it very much

Thank you all so very much. A new days with some new ideas. Hot Dog! Thank you Thank you



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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: dlh (TX)

have you looked the fitting over like checking for a small tare in an o-ring?

are you sure the pipe was seated in the fitting all the way?

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

you shouldnt use sharkbites inside walls

i recommend soldering it all up and getting rid of all the sharkbites


sharkbites work great in an emergency or a open space

i use them to convert from copper to cpvc in basements, i never use them inside walls...i would never trust it....

i dont know why they keep leaking for you...ive never had 1 leak....it doesnt matter because they should not be there...no plumber would do it that way..

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

Well .the gray stuff you are dealing with may be decomposing at, the there is no seam area.If you are using shark bites with the backing lug's try installing The lug ,before the shark bite.Also check your cut method,use a new razor sharp knife and see if that helps.Snap type cutters can actually crack this stuff before it cut's it.Good luck.Hope you can remove this whole section of pipe .



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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: mjb1962853 (NY)

The outer surface of the tubing MUST be smooth. To prevent a nick or tear in the o-ring, you should also bevel the outside edge of the fresh cut tube. NEW sharkbites usually come with a little silicone grease packed around the o-ring. If you are re-using the same sharkbite, check for any damage to the o-ring as suggested above. If good, apply a TINY amount of silicone grease to the o-ring and maybe the outside of the tube before re-assembling.

The best solution is to glue (CPVC) or solder (copper) all of the shower plumbing that will be in the wall. I like sharkbites for special connections, but they are way too expensive for general use. Although rated for use just about anywhere, I haven't used them long enough to trust them inside a wall.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: redwood (CT)

"you shouldnt use sharkbites inside walls
i recommend soldering it all up and getting rid of all the sharkbites
sharkbites work great in an emergency or a open space
i use them to convert from copper to cpvc in basements, i never use them inside walls...i would never trust it....
i dont know why they keep leaking for you...ive never had 1 leak....it doesnt matter because they should not be there...no plumber would do it that way.."


They aren't approved for use in walls, concealed locations and underground? I thought otherwise!

Please tell me how to sweat polybutylene...

Paula,
If you have inspected the O-ring for nicks and tears, the polybutylene tube is cut straight, the outer part of the tube is entirely smooth, and it is inserted all the way into the sharkbite it shouldn't be leaking.

Is the tube failing by splitting?

It may just be time to bite the bullet and repipe with PEX Tubing.

Have a look at this link...
[www.watts.com]
Interested?

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: Deb (ID)

What kinds of pipe(s) are you dealing with here? There may be a better alternative than the Sharkbite fittings (which aren't working).

Deb-The Pipewench

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: hj (AZ)

Soldering would be great, except this is a mobile home and thus probably has ABS, PE,PB, or some other plastic.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: PaulaPlumbDummy (MT)

Thank you for your time. It is the grey plastic pipe throughout, I have been slowly changing to the red. This spot: I have went red then white then back to red. I guess it's time to learn to solder Thanx again

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

i never said they werent approved for conceiled spaces....just that no plumber would do that....and you agree...

solution-replumb shower mixer - no sharkbites

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: hj (AZ)

Don't try to solder the plastic pipes. And it doesn't appear you have any copper ones to solder.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: Deb (ID)

Where are you planning on soldering? Is the red and white pipe PEX?

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

Time to discover cpvc.You will love it.Good Luck.Remember to insulate your hot lines.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: redwood (CT)

"i never said they werent approved for conceiled spaces....just that no plumber would do that....and you agree..."

No I don't agree, I have used many in concealed places and never had a problem with one yet.

"Time to discover cpvc.You will love it.Good Luck.Remember to insulate your hot lines."

I would consider CPVC in a Trailer in Montana to not be a wise choice of material.
PEX would be My #1 Choice.



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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: dlh (TX)

nothing worng with cpvc. infact they did a study and found that the water tastes better than with any other type of piping

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: redwood (CT)

However in a trailer in Montana the possibility of freeze damage plays a trump card.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: dlh (TX)

i cant help that you people like to freeze to death most of the year ;)

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: hj (AZ)

And what did they compare it to? Taste tests are extremely subjective. What tastes good to me might be repugnant to you. Which is why water company love to publish testimonials. They can pick the ones that praise their product.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: hj (AZ)

How will discovering CPVC help if the problem is on the PB side?

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: dlh (TX)

i dont know. it was not a "scientific" study and i am not about to try and search through all the trade pubs. to find the article:P

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

Replacement of segments, and throughout, as money, time allows .A sharkbite is not a cheap fitting . Figuring out you can re-pipe, part's cost only, for the cost of many repairs. Makes replacing it a better option.and any tubing that is allowed to freeze is not going to let water flow through it.And if the fitting freezes,it wont matter what it is made of. It will burst.Pex may be her alternative, if the replacement or repair occurs in the dead of winter temp's. The real fitting's and tools and being sure they are used right,Is not apply the glue in an even coat and wipe excess,allowing for cure time ,Ok a new pair of snap cutters.Hot piping no mater where it is located should be insulated in my mind,it will always serve the all mighty buck.We will all live to see all the codes change to insulated hot distribution piping only.Green is coming and just in my little part of the country I can count endlessly the gallons of water wasted every day because,you have to run it to get it hot.and retro fit systems waste energy trying to serve the customers want's after the fact.Good Luck.Ok I just had to rant.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: steve (CA)

" Taste and smell of water. Advocates of plastic plumbing pipe have long hailed the product’s ability to maintain water quality. That is to say that neither CPVC nor PEX will leach potentially harmful copper into the water supply. However, a recent sensory impact study conducted by The Civil and Environmental Engineering Department of Virginia Tech further documented the superiority of CPVC, in particular, as it related to water taste and smell. A trained panel using Flavor Profile Analysis to assess odors and tastes of water in contact with various piping materials, found CPVC clearly outperformed the other materials in the test."

[imperialvalleynews.com]

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

I think she is more concerned with the water staying in the pipes right now ,though I like to hear good news about what we need to use,rather than copper.Good Luck.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: dlh (TX)

i heard somewhere (have not heard since or confermed) that there was a problem with pex, i am not even sure what the problem is. but there you have it

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: sum (FL)

Quote

Thank you for your time. It is the grey plastic pipe throughout, I have been slowly changing to the red. This spot: I have went red then white then back to red. I guess it's time to learn to solder Thanx again

What is red to white back to red? Is that the color of the pipes?

I assume "grey plastic pipe" is ABS?

I have used sharkbites and john guest fittings for endcaps during rough in, I have experienced problems when I cut the pipe too close to previous soldered joints that results in some non-uniform surface texture, or if I don't clean the cut it may damage the fitting when pushing in.

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 Re: Shark-bite leak
Author: dlh (TX)

"I assume "grey plastic pipe" is ABS?"

well it depends, electricians use grey pvc pipe and some polybutleyne for water service is grey

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