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 removing pvc glue from skin
Author: Vern H

Greetings from soggy Chicago! LOTS of rain here and more on the way. I needed to rig something up and went to Ace hardware for pvc fittings and glue. The glue I got is different, it's colored a dark gray instead of the usual clear. It worked just fine but I have residue on my hands. Is there any way to get this stuff off?

Thanks!

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: redwood (CT)

Ummm Is this glue rated for PVC Schedule 40 plumbing applications?

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: Vern H

It is absolutely rated for pvc, both schedule 40 and schedule 80. I tried to find a link, no luck. It says "heavy Duty cement medium Body gray". Next to that, it says "for joining pvc pipe and fittings up to 8' diameter. Schedule 40 and 80. It smells just as bad as the clear stuff but the gray color threw me off.

Thanks!

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: hj (AZ)

It is PVC cement, but it is very thick and sometimes a tight joint will wipe it off when you put it together. Let it dry and peel it off.

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

i wear latex gloves under my work gloves....the glue/cleaner causes liver cancer.....10cents a day gives my liver alittle more time.

we all still inhale it in out lungs which goes to the liver i believe anyways...

any i get on my skin i just peel off

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: sozoal (CA)

ditto on the gloves, peel off heavy glue, soap hot water and a nail brush gets the rest

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: Vern H

Peeling is the way to go!

I very much appreciate all who take the time to reply, you guys are the best!

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: PlumberManDan (IA)

Take a nice long warm shower, once the water and the soap hits the leftovers they will peel right off.

PlumbCat TM 2003


Plumbermandan

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: hj (AZ)

the glue/cleaner causes liver cancer.....10cents a day gives my liver alittle more time.

Where in the Medical Journal is that little tidbit found?

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: redwood (CT)

Maybe you need to look at a MSDS Sheet and figure out how to read them. As a business owner you have to keep on file MSDS Sheets for every chemical that you use... Not too bad if you are a one man show, after all who's going to file an OSHA complaint, but, when you have employees very important. You also have to train them on how to read the MSDS Sheets so they can know the hazards of their job...

Did you know that every truck out on the road should have a file with MSDS Sheets for all chemicals and materials stored and used on the truck, or, jobs. It's an OSHA gig not to have them. Also if you have an exposure to a chemical or material that injures you, first aid responders and medical personel will want that information to provide data for your treatment. How fast do you want that data available to them?

Let's take a look at section 6 from the purple PVC primer MSDS sheet linked below...



"Section 6 - Health Hazard Data

Routes of Entry:
Inhalation YES/Primary Skin YES/Primary Ingestion YES/Secondary

Health Hazards:
Corrosive to eyes and skin irritant. Severe overexposure can cause headache, dizziness and narcosis. May
cause dermatosis and dermatitis with prolonged repeated contact.

Carcinogenicity: NTP NO IARC NO OSHA Regulated NO

Signs And Symptoms of Exposure:
INGESTION: No effects expected. INHALATION: Will cause irritation of mucous membranes, nose, eyes, & throat;
coughing, difficulty of breathing. Exposure to high vapor concentration may cause headache, dizziness, nausea,
narcosis. SKIN CONTACT: Prolonged skin contact causes common solvent defatting effect. EYE CONTACT:
Vapors slightly uncomfortable. Splashes irritating. Will cause painful burning or stinging of eyes & lids, watering of
eyes and conjunctiva.

Medical Conditions Generally Aggravated By Exposure:
No data found

Emergency And First Aid Procedures:
INGESTION: DO NOT INDUCE VOMITING. If conscious, dilute by giving 2 glasses of water. Call a physician
immediately. INHALATION: Remove to fresh air. If not breathing, give artificial respiration, preferably mouth-tomouth
resuscitation. If breathing is difficult, give oxygen. Call a physician. SKIN CONTACT: Wash affected area
with soapy water. Remove contaminated clothing. EYE CONTACT: Immediately flush eyes with plenty of water for
15 minutes. Consult a physician."




Looking in this section under "Carcinogenicity" you see...

"Carcinogenicity: NTP NO IARC NO OSHA Regulated NO"

This means that the product is not known to cause cancer.


[www.herchem.com]
[www.herchem.com]

Of course this would only apply to the material I listed and the MSDS for the materials you use should be looked up as chemical formulations between manufacturers and their different products will vary.



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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: mjb1962853 (NY)

Pretty much every MSDS says the same thing about these plastic solvents and possible liver damage. Cancer is not confirmed in humans, but of course the "California Proposition 65" must be included when even 1 carcinogenic atom is present.

[www.oatey.com]

Once the glue dries to the skin, some of the bad stuff has already been absorbed. Gloves are a cheap safety investment for someone (like a plumber) who is likely to get repeated long term exposure.

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: Wheelchair (IL)

The discovery process is something we learn each day. As new dangers are discovered and logged, we learn.

For example, lead. Who would have known years ago the effects on one's body with the continue use of lead. Leaded joints go back before I was born, but it wasn't until the last 25 years that we discovered how dangerous the fumes were to our bodies. Worst yet when injested. Today, we know of several retired plumbers with lung problems directly related to lead fumes and the handling of lead.

Granted there are so many other elements that a typical plumber comes into contact with on a daily basis that is equally as dangerous.

I have heard of a study that goes back 10 years relevent to the effects of solvent fumes in an enclosed area over the long term. The results of that study may have not yet been released yet, however, I understand that some parts of the study have revealed that pvc solvent fumes could be more harmful to the body... then lead. Ofcourse, much of this is only speculation until the facts are offically released to the public.

The future should be interesting, if not, informative. Always a word of percaution. When handling any chemical, treat it with all due respect.

Best Wishes

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: hj (AZ)

The effects of lead have been known for a lot more than 25 years. Even in the 50's we knew not to breath the fumes from the lead pot. As for lead in solder, anyone who has ever disected a solder joint knows that there is only an tiny bit of solder exposed to water assuming the joint was made correctly and there is even that small circle at the end of the copper, and even that little bit is quickly covered by a patina. If the lead in brass fittings were dissolving like the "experts" claim the valves would be failing left and right with pin holes in them.

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

you dont have to look up 'liver cancer' on the msds sheets when the primer/glue CAN says 'causes liver cancer'

havent read the glue/primer cans in 9 years, but ive read it there when i was an apprentice

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: redwood (CT)

You might want to read again.
Formulations change and so do the hazards.

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: mjb1962853 (NY)

A little off topic, but the effects of lead poisoning have been known for over 2000 years

[www.epa.gov]

and... a SWEET way to go (not really!)

[chemistry.about.com] :S

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: rbaxter (Non-US)

Every manufacturer will have a different formula. Always read them.

SKIN CONTACT: Prolonged skin contact causes common solvent defatting effect.

If I could figure out how to peal it off and leave the hair I would apply it to my belly avery day!

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: hj (AZ)

Why not. It would be cheaper than waxing. And you might get a neat bikini line.



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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: nwplumber (WA)

Rbaxter, do you plumb without a shirt? I beleive that is an untapped market here in the U.S. I may have a new business venture. Unless the Desperate Houswives thing is over and done with.

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: hj (AZ)

Let's see now. One person says it is a weight loss aide, and the other says it gives you liver cancer. I would call that a mixed blessing and you have to decide whether you want to be Reubenesque or dead.

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: dlh (TX)

cancer can cause weight loss

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: redwood (CT)

I'll keep the "Buddha Belly" thanks!:laugh:

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: hj (AZ)

Yes, but you will not see any TV commercials promoting losing weight that way.

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: birddoggiest (ID)

I am not huffing, I just like the way the primer smells.

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 Re: removing pvc glue from skin
Author: dlh (TX)

i like the way it feels on teh crotch while sweating to death in the summerX(

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