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 shower mixing valves
Author: triplestagedarkness (DE)

I have a single handle shower in my bathroom. I gutted the bathroom, but left the mixing valve in the wall, as it was not very old. The problem is that I've discarded the handle and trim ring that went with this mixing valve.
-are mixing valves all standard (i.e. can a mixing valve previously used for a Moen, be used on a new Kohler handle?)
-I started opening boxes at the Home Depot of shower handles/mixing valve assemblies, and they don't appear the same as mine.
My mixing valve has a brass cog type end that appears to slide into the shower handle and then is secured with a screw. I do have a picture of my mixing valve that I can forward if it helps anyone.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: e-plumber (NY)

"I started opening boxes at the Home Depot"

Nice...That's one of the reasons I never buy from a big box store.

Post your picture to [www.photobucket.com], then provide us with the link to the picture, someone should be able to identify it, then you may be able to order a trim kit or a whole complete valve and strip it down to use what you need. Faucet brands cannot be mixed.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: dlh (TX)

you will have to get the trim for that valve.


post your pic somewhere like photobucket.com and paste the url back here for us to see. we might be able to identify your valve

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: triplestagedarkness (DE)





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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: hj

Nice job of cutting the opening. However it usually has to be about 5" in diameter, and when tile installers make a hole that neatly they often have to come back and make it the right size. That is not enough to tell us the manufacturer, but it could be Price Pfister.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: e-plumber (NY)

It slightly resembles a Kohler "Rite-Temp" cartridge but I doubt it...
One thing, it appears to be set too deep in the wall for a face plate, trim and a handle to fit properly...The picture angle may be deceiving - let's hope so.

Hindsight is 20/20 but replacing the complete valve would have been a good decision since the wall was open anyway.

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exalted activity will have neither good Plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." -
John William Gardner 10/8/1912 - 2/16/2002

Repair your leaking Plumbing fixtures ASAP [www.theplumber.com]
This slow drip will waste 7+ gallons of water per day.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: triplestagedarkness (DE)

There was previously the same type of shower wall material, and it was probably thicker, and that worked fine, so I'm hoping this is okay

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: GREENplumb (GA)

looks like a kohler to me

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: North Carolina Plumber (NC)

Looks like a Kohler to me too.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: waukeshaplumbing (WI)

looks like a kohler 304k to me.

how do you plan on repairing the cartridge someday?

the hole should be 4" for kohler minimum

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: packy

where do the trim screws go?

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: e-plumber (NY)



It might be a 'straight on view' of one of these, (Kohler) [www.faucetline.com]

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This slow drip will waste 7+ gallons of water per day.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

yea you have the right vale body.The trouble is it was installed perfectly.The plumber had no idea that the i.m. marble guy was a putzee.Call him back get the cover plate that the plumber left with the valve and have him cut around it.Good Luck.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: hj

The plumber probably left the job 20 years ago and the plaster ring was thrown away about the same time.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

If the last roll of digits on the safety plastic are 116995-6 yea like I said.Good Luck.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: triplestagedarkness (DE)

116995-6-AA
thats the numbers on the safety plastic. so everyone is in agreement that it's a kohler?

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: redwood (CT)

Walks like a duck...
Talks like a duck...
Must be a damn duck!

Go to Kohlers website and pick out a trim kit that you like that fits on the K-304 valve. Kerching! $$$$$$$$$$



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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: e-plumber (NY)

It's probably less expensive to buy the complete faucet, use everything and trash the valve body.

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exalted activity will have neither good Plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water." -
John William Gardner 10/8/1912 - 2/16/2002

Repair your leaking Plumbing fixtures ASAP [www.theplumber.com]
This slow drip will waste 7+ gallons of water per day.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: redwood (CT)

More than likely!

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: packy

does kohler sell the valve as a complete faucet? might be sold as a rough valve and trim seperately?
anyway, call 1 800 4KOHLER and sweet talk the rep. might get the trim for free..

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: hj

If it is, and depending on the age, and model, one version has the trim plate bolt holes on the core of the valve, but the newer version has them on the body so the two do not interchange.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: redwood (CT)

As always with Kohler there are many mouse traps for each model as the engineers kept drawing and drawing and drawing.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: LemonPlumber (FL)

Try your local plumbing supply house.They should have a track pack chrome trim in a bag .If you want to go high end look for your nearest kohler showroom.Good Luck.

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 Re: shower mixing valves
Author: hj

Our JR Smith rep has a cartoon, with a man with a whip standing outside the door to the R&D department. The person answering the door is saying, " There's a guy out here who wants to see the person who designed part number 57112."

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