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 push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: Jeffko (MO)

I have a toilet shut off valve that seems to be a "pull to shut off and push to turn on type" that is part of the water supply tube that goes to the toilet. My problem is that this shut off valve must be weak as when the toilet fill valve (fluidmaster) stops filling and shuts off, the shut off knob pops closed from the pressure change. I was going to remove this cheap looking shut-off/supply tube combination and replace it with a new compression type 1/4 turn shut off but don't know how to remove it. There is no nut to turn to get it off the 1/2" copper stub like a compresssion type valve and it is not soldered because the entire thing is plastic except for the stainless braided hose part. All my toilets have this set-up, the house was built about five years ago. Is this some sort of self tightened type of compresssion fit that is just pushed on the end of the pipe? I won't have enough pipe left from the wall if I cut it off. Anyone ever heard of this?
Thanks,
Jeff

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: lefty75 (ID)

your gonna have to cut it off. Be careful not to cut into the copper pipe.

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: Jeffko (MO)

Here is a pic of the shut off. Thanks again for the help. Should I just try to cut it off the pipe?[@#$%&[i274.photobucket.com]][/URL]

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: hj (AZ)

It is a push on valve. Sometimes it will come off if you twist it while pulling on it. Other times you have to cut the valve apart to remove it.

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: redwood (CT)

The plumber who built your house saved time and money installing those!



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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: hj (AZ)

Isn't that the rule for new construction plumbers and contractors? Why worry about the service plumber or homeowner down the line. "Let them work around what we install".

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: e-plumber (NY)

You mean the builder saved.
...That type of valve looks scary :eek:

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: birddoggiest (ID)

I worked for a big union cantractor and was the foreman on a retirement home. We had to install about 700 of those things. I was disgusted with the thought. In the end we only had one problem with one that the rubber o-ring got cut and leaked and easily replaced. If you spin them counter clockwise and pull they spin off. I wouldn't use them on my own jobs but worked good and am sure they are cheap.

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: Jeffko (MO)

Thanks for all of your help. I was able to twist it counterclockwise while pulling and it came right off. I replaced it today with a compresssion fit 1/4 turn valve and hose. No leaks yet! Thanks again.

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: redwood (CT)

:thumb::thumb:

How many more of them are in your home?

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: Jeffko (MO)

I've got two more toilets with these on them. Do you think the others may be a problem in the future as well? Do you think I should be proactive and replace the rest?

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: redwood (CT)

Tick.... Tick..... Tick.... Tick....


In all reality they are probably fine until you need them... Then they just won't work.

If you ever go to change out a toilet or, a fill valve you will need to change the supply line and as they are integral to the valve you will then also have to change the valve out.

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 Re: push/pull type toilet shut-off and supply hose combination??
Author: tjk5800 (FL)

i read that if you pull on the valve hard towards you and turn counterclockwise it will come off dont forget to shut off main supply

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